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Splinty

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Israel data on vaccine effectiveness in the world of Delta




These results suggest that BNT162b2 is moderately to highly effective in reducing infectivity, via preventing infection and through reducing viral shedding.
COVID Vaccines reduce infection rates including asymptomatic infection.
COVID vaccines shorten duration of infection if there is a break through.
Both of the above lower community transmission (have to get infected to be able to transmit. Shorter breakthrough infection results in lower community transmission)
Further, this Israeli data (and previously UK data) show decreased viral shedding in the vaccinated.
They are highly effective at keeping you out of the hospital on top of all of this.


Get vaccinated. Save lives, including your own.
 
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Israel data on vaccine effectiveness in the world of Delta






COVID Vaccines reduce infection rates including asymptomatic infection.
COVID vaccines shorten duration of infection if there is a break through.
Both of the above lower community transmission (have to get infected to be able to transmit. Shorter breakthrough infection results in lower community transmission)
Further, this Israeli data (and previously UK data) show decreased viral shedding in the vaccinated.
They are highly effective at keeping you out of the hospital on top of all of this.


Get vaccinated. Save lives, including your own.
Nooooo!!!
 

Splinty

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Remember this?

12 minutes that everyone should watch, and we likely saw in real-time.



View: https://youtu.be/MEJijfW7hBY



They have to tell you.
Lady at 2:39 is a psychiatrist that has spent decades using fear to sell her own supplements and snake oil.
Last year she used the COVID19 pandemic to push her silver solution.


Some examples of the claims on your websites that establish the intended use of your products and misleadingly represent them as safe and/or effective for the treatment or prevention of COVID-19 include:

• “Once you have access to The Silver Solution, Nano Silver 10 PPM, you have no reason to participate in the COVID-19 panic!” [from your website www.opensourcetruth.com/stop-apr-end- covid-panic/]
• “This Nano Silver 10 PPM is your totally non-toxic key to halting COVID-19 APR – Attachment, Penetration, and Replication – to keep yourself and those you love healthy.” [from your website www.opensourcetruth.com/stop-apr-end-covid-panic/]
• “The science is clear. Nano Silver 10 PPM and coronaviruses do not mix! Nano Silver 10 PPM wins every time by providing proven immune support.” [from your website www.opensourcetruth.com/covid-19-reinfection-danger/]
• “I believe it is prudent to have … ALL Nano Silver 10 PPM YOU AND THOSE IN QUARANTINE WITH YOU ARE LIKELY TO NEED, AND THEN SOME.” [from your website www.opensourcetruth.com/covid-19-reinfection-danger/]
• “ cientific documentation, including that submitted to Congress on the subject, shows that in the presence [of] my Nano Silver 10 PPM, available at Natural Solutions Online Store, … the action of SARS, widely believed to be the parent virus of COVID19, is stopped dead in its tracks. In vitro tests showed that SARS and other viruses could not penetrate living human cell membranes in the presence of the Nano Silver 10 PM [sic].”[from your website www.opensourcetruth.com/covid19- are-face-masks-enough/]
• “It is my considered opinion, based on the evidence and science available to me that this particular Nano Silver 10 PPM, plus sensible hand-washing … can be literally life-saving in pandemic situations.” ].”[from your website http://www.opensourcetruth.com/covid19‐are‐face‐masks‐enough/

You should take immediate action to correct the violations cited in this letter. This letter is not meant to be an all-inclusive list of violations that exist in connection with your products or operations. It is your responsibility to ensure that the products you sell are in compliance with the FD&C Act and FDA's implementing regulations. We advise you to review your websites, product labels, and other labeling and promotional materials to ensure that you are not representing your products for a COVID-19 related use for which they have not been approved by FDA and that you do not make claims that misbrand the products in violation of the FD&C Act.



Ever consider that ironically you are being sold fear porn to just be taken advantage of for reasons like this?
 

Wintermute

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Cool

How long until 4th dose needed?

What happens if you don't get 4th dose? Are you left more vulnerable?

Does your 3rd 4th 5th 6th - 20th dose cause any long term health issues?

Why do we need to vaccinate the young?

Why is my peen not bigger? Can I increase it's dosage?
Have we not assumed this will be a seasonal shot like the flu shot now? I thought that was what we were all expecting.
 

Rambo John J

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Have we not assumed this will be a seasonal shot like the flu shot now? I thought that was what we were all expecting.
I agree it will become a regular thing, whether it is long term safe or not.

That was very obvious from the moment it was "discovered", hence the FDA approving it before safety trials end in 2023.

Lotta folks aren't down with the boosters and I don't blame them.

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Rambo John J

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I have heard of bell's palsy after an mRNA vax. Found this DEFINE_ME
I also have heard of it.

I know a man who had bells palsy years ago after a flu shot...At that time he joined a group of people that had bells palsy.

One of the people in his group developed bells palsy again after his second coronavirus vaccine...The man I know is hesitant to get the vaccine because the 14 months that he had bells palsy was very rough on him and he doesn't want to risk that again.

For some people it really isn't "safe" even if it may be effective short term

IMHO it is a risk that people will take each time they receive a booster, and for many that risk isn't worth the benefit.

I'm not a fan of crowded, overworked, understaffed hospitals...not telling people to not get vaccinated, but I do respect each and every persons choice to make an informed decision on what they put in their body and do their own risk analysis.
 

Wintermute

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I also have heard of it.

I know a man who had bells palsy years ago after a flu shot...At that time he joined a group of people that had bells palsy.

One of the people in his group developed bells palsy again after his second coronavirus vaccine...The man I know is hesitant to get the vaccine because the 14 months that he had bells palsy was very rough on him and he doesn't want to risk that again.

For some people it really isn't "safe" even if it may be effective short term

IMHO it is a risk that people will take each time they receive a booster, and for many that risk isn't worth the benefit.

I'm not a fan of crowded, overworked, understaffed hospitals...not telling people to not get vaccinated, but I do respect each and every persons choice to make an informed decision on what they put in their body and do their own risk analysis.
I agree on most points, I don't trust anyone to do risk analysis. You're asking morons to make medical choices that affect all of us. Nah. People don't even flush public urinals when they're done. Fuck that.

We have a really new-agey, granola director at my company. I don't work in the corporate office, but most of management does. This dude had his baby at home because he didn't trust "western medicine". Did tons of "research" and somehow came up with the fact that the US has the highest infant mortality rate in the world. Gave me huge books to read when my wife was pregnant, etc. Of course, once his baby was born, they had all kinds of issues and had to bring him... TO THE HOSPITAL!!!

He didn't get the vaccine because he didn't want to be a "guinea pig", western medicine, blah blah blah. Yeah, he just got COVID. His 4 year old son got it. His wife has it. His breathing is fucked. Can't work. Can't even get out of bed to answer emails.
 

Rambo John J

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I agree on most points, I don't trust anyone to do risk analysis. You're asking morons to make medical choices that affect all of us. Nah. People don't even flush public urinals when they're done. Fuck that.

We have a really new-agey, granola director at my company. I don't work in the corporate office, but most of management does. This dude had his baby at home because he didn't trust "western medicine". Did tons of "research" and somehow came up with the fact that the US has the highest infant mortality rate in the world. Gave me huge books to read when my wife was pregnant, etc. Of course, once his baby was born, they had all kinds of issues and had to bring him... TO THE HOSPITAL!!!

He didn't get the vaccine because he didn't want to be a "guinea pig", western medicine, blah blah blah. Yeah, he just got COVID. His 4 year old son got it. His wife has it. His breathing is fucked. Can't work. Can't even get out of bed to answer emails.
I hear ya, regardless of outcome I still respect his decision and life choices...That is just how I operate, I don't tell people what to do and I expect the same in return

"safe and effective" is the official line...I find it to be disingenuous
I think the FDA has lowered their standards to approve the Pfizer vaccine...they also did so for the recent Alzheimer’s drug, their own board said not to approve and they did so anyways

I can't blame anybody that doesn't trust Big Pharma...I know I don't, their track record doesn't inspire confidence

Interesting times my friend, interesting times
 
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Small sample but I haven’t met anymore under the age of 60 that plans on a booster.
Likewise, I haven't met anyone in that age bracket who isn't going to get a booster.

But it likely has more to do with people in our social circle having similar opinions to ours.
 

sparkuri

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Lady at 2:39 is a psychiatrist that has spent decades using fear to sell her own supplements and snake oil.
Last year she used the COVID19 pandemic to push her silver solution.
Ad hominem, again.

Ever consider that ironically you are being sold fear porn to just be taken advantage of for reasons like this?

Ever consider that you have bought the fear porn just to be used for a situation like this?