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Dick Niaz

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Well that stops them from dictating private practices policies. Which is happening here.

I don't think you understand how far these west coast states are attempting to reach. They are going full control.

Most of the hospital workers are already vaccinated anyways...by choice.


Oregon has had a similar law on the books since 1989 and the state all of a sudden gives no fucks about it, took the fake "full approval" and wasted not even a day passing a widespread on any health care worker...and Oregon requires a license for everything so it affects so many thousands private practices(between provider and patient only).

I respect your opinion and point, but I don't think you are seeing it for what it is here. Opinion may be different if people close to you were about to lose multiple jobs.
Yes, I can see where you are coming from. I’m just very Libertarian on matters of coercion vs freedom. I’ll fight for a principle over my preferences 10/10 times. I know I’m in the minority on that though.
 

Rambo John J

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Yes, I can see where you are coming from. I’m just very Libertarian on matters of coercion vs freedom. I’ll fight for a principle over my preferences 10/10 times. I know I’m in the minority on that though.
My post probably wasn't that clear.

I think this issue would conflict you if I could properly articulate the workings and details of the situation here...Not sure I can or should fully do that.

Montana is where we will ultimately end up...this may just speed that move up.

I am all about principles...that is what this entire thing is about for me.

Situation is certainly developing and changing rapidly.
 

BeardOfKnowledge

The Most Consistent Motherfucker You Know
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Lol I guess whatever it takes is playing the what if game then. What if Peggy Carter became Captain America and had a million dollars? What if she did two years in school and we gave her a house? So many opportunities, so much imagination.
What you think you're saying: "Huh huh. Look at this guy with ideas no one will ever do."
What you're actually saying: "Everything is going great and we just need to keep doing this."
 

John Lee Pettimore

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As I already told you, those were questions asked to a specific member under a certain context.

If you want to know what I would do if I were in a position to make these decisions I'd simply utter 3 words to my advisory panel. "Whatever it takes."
"Whatever it takes"...... but you trashed NZ for locking down immediately as soon as Delta was found in the community. We're totalitarian, apparently? And you're against mask mandates, aren't you?

What does "whatever it takes" mean, in terms of actual recommendations that you would support? Fast track new hospitals and train thousands of new nurses, but not try to do anything to contain the spread of the disease or maximise vaccination rates?

??
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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but you trashed NZ for locking down immediately as soon as Delta was found in the community.
No, I didn't. You took it that way because you have a personal grudge with me.

We're totalitarian, apparently?
Every country at some point over the last 20 months.

And you're against mask mandates, aren't you?
Yes.

Fast track new hospitals and train thousands of new nurses,
Yes.

but not try to do anything to contain the spread of the disease
That's a very abstract concept that doesn't really mean anything although it "feels" good.

maximise vaccination rates?
I'm in favor of everyone getting vaccinated.
 

Rambo John J

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We should just give everyone the virus then they will be immune
That is in no way the point of the study.
Please Sir, Don't flush that valuable information down he drain with flowing sarcasm.


Antibody tests should be done pre-vaccine if possible if we are being smart and scientific, natural immunity is a very important and powerful thing according to that study


A few pages back I posted that small study about a multiple front T Cell drop in Natural Immunity Holder's levels after receiving the second dose of Vaccine...Those with Natural Immunity probably shouldn't be receiving the vaccine if that is the case...Seems counterproductive to ending a pandemic to diminish the immunity in the most protected


I find that study you are commenting on very interesting and important....Made in Israel
 
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That is in no way the point of the study.
Please Sir, Don't flush that valuable information down he drain with flowing sarcasm.


Antibody tests should be done pre-vaccine if possible if we are being smart and scientific, natural immunity is a very important and powerful thing according to that study


A few pages back I posted that small study about a multiple front T Cell drop in Natural Immunity Holder's levels after receiving the second dose of Vaccine...Those with Natural Immunity probably shouldn't be receiving the vaccine if that is the case...Seems counterproductive to ending a pandemic to diminish the immunity in the most protected


I find that study you are commenting on very interesting and important....Made in Israel
I thought it was a suggestion

edit: good suggestion
 

Rambo John J

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"Among the 15 studies is one by Washington University of St. Louis, published May 24 in the journal Nature.


People who recover [even] from mild COVID-19 have bone-marrow cells that can churn out antibodies for decades," the researchers said.

The study supports an in-vitro study in Singapore that found that people who were infected 17 years ago with SARS-1 had immunity against
SARS-CoV-2 -- or COVID-19 -- even if they never had COVID-19.
"



Don't tell me Anti-body testing isn't important...It may be the most important piece of the puzzle.
 
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"Among the 15 studies is one by Washington University of St. Louis, published May 24 in the journal Nature.


People who recover [even] from mild COVID-19 have bone-marrow cells that can churn out antibodies for decades," the researchers said.

The study supports an in-vitro study in Singapore that found that people who were infected 17 years ago with SARS-1 had immunity against
SARS-CoV-2 -- or COVID-19 -- even if they never had COVID-19.
"



Don't tell me Anti-body testing isn't important...It may be the most important piece of the puzzle.
I wont