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Filthy

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Jun 28, 2016
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Ok, so you think we should take some logical leaps, self admitted assumptions and anecdotal evidence as fact and dismiss legit poll results. Gotcha.

Have you now given up on your claims the sources I posted back up your erroneous claim that half the American population is against vaccine mandates?
 

Freeloading Rusty

Here comes Rover, sniffin’ at your ass
Jan 11, 2016
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i just googled what you wanted to see. It's an exercise in confirmation bias.
Surprised it took you so long.

Funny to see you call into question the source you used to verify your original claim.
 
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Filthy

Iowa Wrestling Champion
Jun 28, 2016
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Surprised it took you so long.

Funny to see you call into question the source you used to verify your original claim.
my first response was "fine - a not insignificant percentage".

eventually you'll realize you spent all day jerking off and came on your own face.
 

Qat

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Nov 3, 2015
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I think you're really oversimplifying the average Americans view of climate change, or the solutions to climate change as a whole. I'm yet to see any government offer anything substantive that isn't just creating a new problem. Europeans also seem to be quick to criticize Americans for climate issues, but are very slow to acknowledge their own behavior. I'm looking at you insistence on driving diesel cars.
You read a lot into that that isn't there.

I didn't talk about the average American, nor governments, not about causes either.

Just about people with idiotic arguments a la "it happened before naturally many times so it's not a problem and we should not do anything about it" or "this global problem will be over after our election".
 

Leigh

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Jan 26, 2015
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It's a reasonable deduction that at the very least the 43% of Americans who are unvaccinated are opposed to vaccine mandates. I don't think it's a leap to think that there is at least 25% of those who are vaccinated think the vaccine mandates are a bridge too far. Anecdotally, that percentage is much higher. Of the 100 or so people I interact with regularly only about 5 of them are unvaccinated. I can only think of 3 or 4 people who think vaccine mandates are full stop in favor of them.
No necessarily. Of that 43%, some will be ineligible for vaccination. It's possible that they support mandates to keep them safe. I'm not saying that's the case, I'm just pointing out that your assumptions might need substantiating.
 

BeardOfKnowledge

The Most Consistent Motherfucker You Know
Jul 22, 2015
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You read a lot into that that isn't there.

I didn't talk about the average American, nor governments, not about causes either.

Just about people with idiotic arguments a la "it happened before naturally many times so it's not a problem and we should not do anything about it" or "this global problem will be over after our election".
Fair enough.
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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Jul 22, 2015
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No necessarily. Of that 43%, some will be ineligible for vaccination. It's possible that they support mandates to keep them safe. I'm not saying that's the case, I'm just pointing out that your assumptions might need substantiating.
Although that's a reasonable point, it's an extremely small amount of people who are medically ineligible and the fact that in at least one of his posted polls we saw who the respondents were and they had a higher vaccination rate than the general public. You're also ignoring that there is vaccine mandates that don't have allowances for people who can't get the vaccine so even acknowledging that small amount of the population they're still unlikely to answer as being in favor when it's posed as a yes or no question.
 

Leigh

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Although that's a reasonable point, it's an extremely small amount of people who are medically ineligible and the fact that in at least one of his posted polls we saw who the respondents were and they had a higher vaccination rate than the general public. You're also ignoring that there is vaccine mandates that don't have allowances for people who can't get the vaccine so even acknowledging that small amount of the population they're still unlikely to answer as being in favor when it's posed as a yes or no question.
You're making another assumption; that ineligibility is only based on medical grounds. Children can't be vaccinated and their parents may be pro mandate because of this.
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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Jul 22, 2015
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You're making another assumption; that ineligibility is only based on medical grounds. Children can't be vaccinated and their parents may be pro mandate because of this.
Ineligible children aren't included in vaccination rates and children can't respond to polls. So as far as collecting data that shows higher support for vaccine mandates than the general publics vaccination rate, children aren't relevant. Come to think of it, I wonder what the vaccination rate becomes if the 12-18 crowd isn't included.
 

Leigh

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Jan 26, 2015
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Ineligible children aren't included in vaccination rates and children can't respond to polls. So as far as collecting data that shows higher support for vaccine mandates than the general publics vaccination rate, children aren't relevant. Come to think of it, I wonder what the vaccination rate becomes if the 12-18 crowd isn't included.
189 million people fully vaccinated. Population of 329.5 million. Percentage vaccinated = 57%. This includes children.
 
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189 million people fully vaccinated. Population of 329.5 million. Percentage vaccinated = 57%. This includes children.
Children are included in most vaccination rates I've seen. Not all but most. Not including them gives an inaccurate representation of how close a country is to herd immunity because children still carry/pass on the virus.