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Leigh

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Unfortunately, many are not listening.



Story:



Last night I had to get outta the house and get supplies; milk, juice, cheese.

I go at 10:30 as store closes at 11.

I don't wanna be in line with last minute shoppers, or surrounded by idiots still not taking it seriously.



The checker has AT LEAST a cold, and overcharges me. I tell her what's up, she tells me TO GIVE HER MY PHONE because I'm using the app wrong. Bologna. She gets frustrated and says" your doing it wrong". Bull, I spend $10,000 a year here.

I called for the manager to get my duckets back, mind you, I've got my N95, goggles and nitrile gloves on, and like everywhere else, I'm treated like the crazy one(stared at, giggles. comments, etc.). Usually I give people a *COUGH* when it gets too much, and people STFU and get back.

Any way, checker is fully pissed *at me* for not handing her the phone. Baggers is hiding his coughing.

Manager comes down, we go to the other register after a debate. Checker yells "He wouldn't give me his phone, he doesn't know how to use the app right!"

Damn right I'm not letting you touch my phone broad.



After a nearly 10-minute ordeal, the manager says "There, I've got things to do" after punching in her super code, and walks away.

Then the computer says my transaction didn't work. I said "Ma'am!, it's not working!", she keeps walking.



I said F this threw up my arms, left the groceries and personal bag, went elsewhere and got my needs.





At 11pm, the store was closed.

Someone came up behind me and rung up $126.66 somehow, on my card #(had to be a worker).

I had to call and cancel my credit card, all associated links etc. and file a fraud claim.

Store manager is going through video tape to find the guilty party.



“What a terrible era in which idiots govern the blind.”
 

nuraknu

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How is everyone doing? Does anyone need help?

Seems easy to feel pretty disconnected from people these days.
 
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Dear everyone


Masks are not useless.
Whatever the CDC says, whatever the WHO says.
Masks inherently were created to be not useless.


The disinformation campaign begins behind closed doors.
This particular disinformation campaign began when officials figured out there were not enough masks to who they deemed important.

A simple surgeons mask keeps others from getting something you may have.
This comes in handy with a disease(@Splinty <3 ) that has an unknown INCUBATION PERIOD.

N95 masks keep out.....guess the amount of molecular particle types.
Those little contraptions you see, are for ease of outbound breathing.

N99 masks keep out...guess the amount of particular types.
Same as above.


ALL masks, isolation methods, cleaning & sanitizing methods, require prudence.
In other words, to get the percentages advertised, assumptions are there are no other mistakes being made:, eg; TOUCHING your mask.

@SC MMA MD & Splinty & others.
Please add to what I missed, I'm generator shopping.

You aren't missing much. That's pretty accurate to the benefits and limitations of those masks.
 

FINGERS

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I wish I could get the ages of uk folk who have died of covid,

I’ve heard it’s 82.
the average age of death in the UK is 80.

Weird.
 
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There's two reasons that a 5-day quarantine would probably be fine:

1>If you have such an amount of population that has been vaccinated or recovered and can show that after 5 days your viral load has such low transmission in this previously exposed population. Even if you still have viral shedding at days 5 through 10, it might not be clinically significant in terms of community spread.


2> If omicron variant sheds for a shorter period of time and it becomes the predominant variant.


I do not know data supporting the first scenario. The second scenario has data and was part of the justification to move down to 5 days. However, very shortly after that, estimates of omicron prevalence were dramatically lowered. The 5-day quarantine change is probably justified very soon, but it sounds like it was premature.
 

Rambo John J

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Rambo John J

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This is a serious question, and I only ask because you've done it 2 nights in a row now. Why do you read "testing" and just assume the discussion has anything to do with the validity of PCR testing?
CDC finally admitted the PCR has numerous flaws, many experts already knew this from the start of mass testing.
I think your health officials are following suite.

I know that probably isn't the answer you want.

@Lars nailed the reality of the situation ^above^, even though I know you don't wanna hear it.
 
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1>If you have such an amount of population that has been vaccinated or recovered and can show that after 5 days your viral load has such low transmission in this previously exposed population. Even if you still have viral shedding at days 5 through 10, it might not be clinically significant in terms of community spread.
annnnndddd....... Ontario says don't bother getting tested anymore. Lol.

From your link ...

Moore said the decision was made based on "growing evidence that generally healthy people with COVID-19 are most infectious for the two days before their symptoms develop and for three days after."


Individuals with COVID-19 who are vaccinated, as well as children under 12, will only be required to isolate for five days following the onset of symptoms. Isolation for these individuals can end after the five-day period as long as their symptoms have improved for at least 24 hours, the government says. Their household contacts will also be required to isolate with them.

Seems they know something I don't. I wonder if they've published this data on one of their their websites or something. Let me know if you see something from your health authorities on what they're basing this on.
 
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What are you basing that assumption on?

Repeating and misconstruing statements that PCR is not useful for contact tracing with our previous case densities.

PCR is a perfectly excellent test including for Corona virus testing to evaluate a symptomatic individual.
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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Repeating and misconstruing statements that PCR is not useful for contact tracing with our previous case densities.

PCR is a perfectly excellent test including for Corona virus testing to evaluate a symptomatic individual.
Makes sense to me.

I just find it frustrating that our government is cutting us off from tests, but also is telling us we have to be locked in our homes for 5 days if anyone has a single symptom. How many sick days do these people think we get?
 

Rambo John J

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What are you basing that assumption on?
Do you have a bunch of people on ignore? Or do you ignore their postings that don't fit your current understanding of the testing? Not talking shit just curious.

I posted about all of this a year or more ago. PCR should not be used as the test for this virus, source is the guy who won a nobel prize for inventing it(along with many other experts). Any "positive result" is also non specific for this particular coronavirus. Flu did not just disappear.

What was deemed misinformation and was silenced is now being admitted by the CDC.
 
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Also an update from Texas.
I think I've had one patient in the hospital with coronavirus before this month following our surge back in September. I think I've had a couple out in clinic.

Today alone I put two patients in the hospital and six positive at the clinic. Clinic patients are all young and one elderly. Nobody had very severe disease. Lots of complaints about throats burning. Lots of 101 temps and general body aches but not as severe as flu.

The elderly person at clinic was vaccinated and boosted. The two people in the hospital are both unvaccinated as is typical.


It's a noticable uptick. There's been a smattering of new cases over the last 10 to 14 days. But this is definitely up. Could be following Christmas because people were gathering and now they're showing symptoms. Could also be that they're all just coming in to sneak in before the upcoming weekend and this is the same smattering that's been going on for weeks. All come together on one day. Still that doesn't explain the hospitalizations. Will be interesting to see what happens during the next week or two
 

Rambo John J

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Repeating and misconstruing statements that PCR is not useful for contact tracing with our previous case densities.

PCR is a perfectly excellent test including for Corona virus testing to evaluate a symptomatic individual.
Are you even following the recent CDC press releases?
Serious question.

I feel like you guys are caught up in the previous narratives(which were faulty).
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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Do you have a bunch of people on ignore? Or do you ignore their postings that don't fit your current understanding of the testing? Not talking shit just curious.

I posted about all of this a year or more ago. PCR should not be used as the test for this virus, source is the guy who won a nobel prize for inventing it(along with many other experts). Any "positive result" is also non specific for this particular coronavirus. Flu did not just disappear.

What was deemed misinformation and was silenced is now being admitted by the CDC.
The government of Ontario is sighting testing capacity limits as the reason for changing who can get tested. You seem to be under the impression that it's because they don't believe the testing is accurate. So I asked where you're getting that assumption from. I'm not sure what's confusing about this.
 

Rambo John J

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Also an update from Texas.
I think I've had one patient in the hospital with coronavirus before this month following our surge back in September. I think I've had a couple out in clinic.

Today alone I put two patients in the hospital and six positive at the clinic. Clinic patients are all young and one elderly. Nobody had very severe disease. Lots of complaints about throats burning. Lots of 101 temps and general body aches but not as severe as flu.

The elderly person at clinic was vaccinated and boosted. The two people in the hospital are both unvaccinated as is typical.


It's a noticable uptick. There's been a smattering of new cases over the last 10 to 14 days. But this is definitely up. Could be following Christmas because people were gathering and now they're showing symptoms. Could also be that they're all just coming in to sneak in could be following Christmas because people were gathering and now they're showing symptoms. Could also be that they're all just coming in to get tested before the upcoming weekend and this is the same smattering that's been going on for weeks. All come together on one day. Still that doesn't explain the hospitalizations. Will be interesting to see what happens during the next week or two
I had that burning throat for a couple days, slight fever and aches.
 
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Are you even following the recent CDC press releases?
Serious question.

I feel like you guys are caught up in the previous narratives(which were faulty).

I followed the CDC guidelines and subscribe to said mailing list. I do not follow every press release. Feel free to show your work on the CDC showing that PCR is bunk.
 

Rambo John J

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The government of Ontario is sighting testing capacity limits as the reason for changing who can get tested. You seem to be under the impression that it's because they don't believe the testing is accurate. So I asked where you're getting that assumption from. I'm not sure what's confusing about this.
I think they are using the testing limitations as an excuse to change the protocol for testing...because simultaneously many other countries and health orgs are also changing protocols very recently.

I'm not trying to convince you guys of anything, you can find all this information and it has all been posted here...most of it within the last week in this thread by others.

My posts on the topic are buried deep in the thread, but they are being confirmed by the same sources that called the claims misinformation previously.