General 14 students, 1 teacher dead following mass school shooting in Texas

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Splinty said:
I'm not against people being able to carry their pistol. They just simply owe me permitting and training as a bystander.
I'm against police officers putting a gun on their hip with no training and playing johnny badass. I'm against the rest of us doing it too. But the constitutional and open carry snowflakes want to walk around doing just that.


Historically, carrying a pistol legally meant concealed carry and that meant a class ( which I think should be considerably more in depth than it is) and enhanced background check.

The movements for open carry and constitutional carry disrupt the fact that CHL holders were extremely low risk to be criminals in the future, including participating in gun crimes.

The bare minimum of a CHL class and enhanced background check resulted in a stratifying of owners that were safer than the average population...even when having a gun.


I'm not looking to ban anything. But just like we see CHL permitting result in safer gun owners. The same should be done for all guns outside of the very basic category that would pose the least amount of public risk and law enforcement difficulties.
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why?

there are tens (if not hundreds) of MILLIONS of people who require no further training or certification to continue not killing innocent people.

how does creating this system of "rights that aren't actually rights, they have to be earned" solve more problems than it creates? It will not stratify based on competence, it will stratify based on wealth, privilege, and connections to power. You basically want the CA/NY model for the entire US, how has that worked out for the people most likely to be impacted by violent crime (poor/immigrant)?
 
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Splinty @Splinty - how does this system stop this kid from killing a shitload of people with a shotgun? or bomb?

everyone is putting forth these GIANT bureaucratic solutions, without taking the time to address the cost/benefit what they're doing.
 
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Death toll has gone up by one.

One of the husbands of the murdered teachers has had a massive heart attack and died.
 
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