General 14 students, 1 teacher dead following mass school shooting in Texas

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This is the phrase I imagine goes through your head during any explanation involving more than a single dimension.

It's Pak's "I wild each it lol that meets their naked".
So many back and forth posts and you still haven't said anything.
Why do you exist?
What is the point of your taking up space?
 

Shinkicker

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we still don't know the name of the "incident commander" who allowed this debacle to unfold.

why hasn't he/she been fired or resigned?

when can I expect charges to be filed against him/her?
Steven McCraw, the director of the Texas Department of Public Safety, said Friday that Peter Arredondo, the chief of police for the Uvalde Consolidated Independent School District, had stopped at least 19 officers from breaking into the school as the gunman opened fire for at least an hour.
 

Shinkicker

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Federal agents who went to Robb Elementary School in Uvalde, Texas, on Tuesday to confront a gunman who killed 19 children were told by local police to wait and not enter the school — and then decided after about half an hour to ignore that initial guidance and find the shooter, say two senior federal law enforcement officials.

According to the officials, agents from BORTAC, the Customs and Border Protection tactical unit, and ICE's Homeland Security Investigations (HSI) arrived on the scene between noon and 12:15 p.m. on Tuesday. Local law enforcement asked them to wait, and then instructed HSI agents to help pull children out of the windows.

The BORTAC team, armed with tactical gear, at first did not move toward the gunman. After approximately 30 minutes passed, however, the federal agents opted of their own volition to lead the “stack” of officers inside the school and take down the shooter.
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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Shatterproof/bulletproof glass and locks: *Exist*

Everyone: There's no way to keep people from coming into a building!!!
 

Speaker to Animals

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He once pretended to be a lawyer until I called him out on it.
Thing is, sparkuri @sparkuri said something, posted something else to support it, and hasn't clarified anything.

An armed society is a polite society, something something Australia, don't know what that has to do with, blah blah blah. I don't even care what point he was trying to make now.

sparkuri @sparkuri your name is in my fuckin mouth, and it's like this: if you want to make a point, give it to someone who's able to make it for you.
 

Shinkicker

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Thing is, sparkuri @sparkuri said something, posted something else to support it, and hasn't clarified anything.

An armed society is a polite society, something something Australia, don't know what that has to do with, blah blah blah. I don't even care what point he was trying to make now.

sparkuri @sparkuri your name is in my fuckin mouth, and it's like this: if you want to make a point, give it to someone who's able to make it for you.
If you don’t care we don’t care.

So kindly fuck off about it, please.


Inappropriate. ~Hauler
 

Splinty

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The school resource officer was not on campus when the call went out.

Wtf?

I understand there is some timeline stuff that will take a while to figure out. But they flat out came out and said a school resource officer confronted the gunman which was just factually untrue.
 

Shinkicker

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So ok....

A neighbor called about the vehicle crash and reported a man with a gun.
The school called and reported the crash and a man with a gun on the school property.
This was before the gunman entered because....

A kid said they were on lockdown in the school before the shooter entered his classroom.
The student resource office heard the call go out to police, rushed to the school, drove past the gunman hiding behind a car in the parking lot, and accosted a person who turned out t be a teacher.

So.....

How did he get into the school if they were on lockdown?

Didn’t they just have a drill last week?

Why wasn’t the classroom door locked?

I have participated in school lockdown drills.

Lock your classroom door is literally step one.
 

Splinty

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Steven McCraw, the director of the Texas Department of Public Safety, said Friday that Peter Arredondo, the chief of police for the Uvalde Consolidated Independent School District, had stopped at least 19 officers from breaking into the school as the gunman opened fire for at least an hour.

Apparently there were three border patrol agents that went in despite cops trying to stop them wtf.

One of them almost got killed but they shot the gunman
 

Shinkicker

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I understand there is some timeline stuff that will take a while to figure out. But they flat out came out and said a school resource officer confronted the gunman which was just factually untrue.
According to the new timeline, there was at least 12 minutes between the call from the school about a gunman present on their property and the time he entered the school.

The drills I’ve had are pretty intricate but each task is preassigned and practiced. If you are a teacher near an outside door you may have two tasks, check locks on outer doors and lock your classroom door. All others have one task, lock your classroom door.

Why wasn’t that school locked down?
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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So ok....

A neighbor called about the vehicle crash and reported a man with a gun.
The school called and reported the crash and a man with a gun on the school property.
This was before the gunman entered because....

A kid said they were on lockdown in the school before the shooter entered his classroom.
The student resource office heard the call go out to police, rushed to the school, drove past the gunman hiding behind a car in the parking lot, and accosted a person who turned out t be a teacher.

So.....

How did he get into the school if they were on lockdown?

Didn’t they just have a drill last week?

Why wasn’t the classroom door locked?

I have participated in school lockdown drills.

Lock your classroom door is literally step one.
My wife is a preschool teacher. You can't get in the building unless you call and someone lets you in. That's not under a lockdown drill, it's just common sense to prevent kids from being abducted.
 

Shinkicker

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Someone scoffed at arming the teachers. This would be those teachers if you are after their kids...






Two unarmed women died trying to shield those kids. I would bet one of them would have had the balls to shoot him.
 

Shinkicker

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However, I wouldn’t stand for the idea of a teacher having a gun in my child’s classroom everyday.