General 14 students, 1 teacher dead following mass school shooting in Texas

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I'm hoping if we get the top men working on it we can come up with something like this thing that, you know, already exists:

yes we need full steel doors on all the schools, locked from the outside so kids can’t even come in from recess normally. it will also be be very easy to bulk order them for every school in america and then install them. i’m thinking of hiring you
 

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yes we need full steel doors on all the schools, locked from the outside so kids can’t even come in from recess normally. it will also be be very easy to bull order them for every school in america and then install them. i’m thinking of hiring you
or, we could have them unlocked during recess and then lock them during class time...
 
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Like seriously @Lars there's just no way you've never seen a commercial door before.
that’s for a utility room or shop/warehouse environment, and part of it is fire containment. but sure let’s just buy steel plate doors to lock the kids in (and out). how many doors we finna need?
 

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I'm forced to ask. Why are people so reluctant to try locking the doors and seeing what happens?
 

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Cause prisons
My high school had a gang problem. So they said "From now on during class hours all doors but the main entrance will be exit only." It was a pain in the dick when you were cutting class, but you aren't really supposed to cut class.

I remember during covid people would make the cost/benefit argument about masks, and that's a reasonable position. Might not fix everything, but it's very easy to do. The same logic applies, or at least should, apply here.
 

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I'm forced to ask. Why are people so reluctant to try locking the doors and seeing what happens?
No one cares if the recommendation is to go ahead and lock all the doors.
It's the deflection that this then means we don't have to do anything else.
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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No one cares if the recommendation is to go ahead and lock all the doors.
There's about 2 pages of posts that disagree with you.

It's the deflection that this then means we don't have to do anything else.
Maybe you don't. No one complains about sports arenas being like prisons, but there doesn't seem to be a lot of mass shootings at those.
 

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Maybe you don't. No one complains about sports arenas being like prisons, but there doesn't seem to be a lot of mass shootings at those.
I thought you were just locking doors?

Now you want metal detectors, millimeter wave scanners, TSA viper teams, massive surveillance and police at all schools everyday.
 

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I thought you were just locking doors?

Now you want metal detectors, millimeter wave scanners, TSA viper teams, massive surveillance and police at all schools everyday.
That’s crazy
Those kids don’t deserve that kind of safety
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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I thought you were just locking doors?

Now you want metal detectors, millimeter wave scanners, TSA viper teams, massive surveillance and police at all schools everyday.
Given that those things are primarily theater, why don't we start with locking doors. Cost/benefit and all that jazz.
 
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I'm forced to ask. Why are people so reluctant to try locking the doors and seeing what happens?
when i design and build large complexes i obey the fire code. if you asked me to build one where the egresses were all steel plate doors i would decline, especially if it is filled with children. and i don’t think it’s feasible to replace all the doors on all the schools with “proper” fortified fire egresses anyway, especially in a country like america. the idea of “lock all the doors” is stupid because it can’t be done properly without massive campus redesigns and renovations.
 
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I thought you were just locking doors?

Now you want metal detectors, millimeter wave scanners, TSA viper teams, massive surveillance and police at all schools everyday.
it escalates quickly doesn’t it
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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when i design and build large complexes i obey the fire code. if you asked me to build one where the egresses were all steel plate doors i would decline, especially if it is filled with children. and i don’t think it’s feasible to replace all the doors on all the schools with “proper” fortified fire egresses anyway, especially in a country like america. the idea of “lock all the doors” is stupid because it can’t be done properly without massive campus redesigns and renovations.
Or they could be the steel doors where the top half is glass, and they have push bar on the inside, a thumb lever on the outside, and can be locked with an allen key. You know, like most schools have.