General Senate Judiciary Committee Report on Jan 6th

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La Paix

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Hutchison called it the beast twice during that segment. But Cheney opened up the segment by referring to it as the "presidents vehicle" and showing the clip of the suburban
Lots of talk about the wheel grab and all that but not many people addressing the claims of trump wanting the mags removed allowing people to walk into the event with whatever weapons they have on them. From what I’ve watched and read the removal isn’t due to big lines ups it’s just that lots of people didn’t want to go through them. How anyone can know that lots of pissed off people are assembled and are not wanting to go through a mag gate because they’re armed and then ask for those gates to be removed is just retarded.
 

kaladin stormblessed

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It's like some of us are living in two different realities nowadays. Case in point, some of you still think that trump won the election. He didn't. It's difficult to have an honest discuss about everything else if you believe his ongoing lie about the election

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Let's look at a possible charge of "conspiracy to overturn an election"

- trump was told many times that the fraud allegations were bullshit, so he knew he lost rhe election

- trump had teams draw up fake electors and send them to people to states

- trump pressured the DoJ to send out a false statement about fraud. They refused to do so, so he went on a mission to replace the AG. He was told that the DOJ would be a graveyard because everyone would quit if he did that, so he didn't do it

- despite being told the fraud allegations were bullshit, trump went on a mission to pressure pence in both meetings and media to not certify the election

- trump sent fake electors to someone to give to pence (rock Scott or someone). Pence refused to take the fake electors

- trump wanted to give a speech to rioters, then March down to capital and give another speech outside, then go inside and give one inside the chamber. He was told that would break every law possible

- ahead of his speech, he was told that people had weapons. And they had plans to break into the capital

- despite knowing that, his speech encouraged them to go to the capital. He said they had to fight to take it back

- during speech, he again pressured pence despite all of the days of meetings before January 6th

- trump tried to get his details to do a non scheduled move and take him there. They denied him

- he threw a tantrum back at Whitehouse when they continued to deny him

- crowd brings gallows and chants to hang mike pence. Though some people such as pat zipoloni scrambled to meadows that trump had to do something, meadows said that pat zipoloni had heard trump. Trump had said that pence deserves it

- trump then tweeted that Mike Pence let them down

- trump refused to do anything foe hours despite his team as well as other people like trump Jr, Hannity, Ingraham saying thst he needed to say somethjg to end the riot

- trump waited hours after capital breech to put out a video telling rioters to leave. The video he put out was not as forceful as some of his advisors wanted since he changed the language to be loving of the rioters

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It's pretty clear that trump conspired to obstruct congress

It's also clear that he was unhinged. That is why his cabinet was discussing the possibly of the 25th amendment to remove it. It is also why Miley had a call with generals to make sure that he was involved in any nuclear launches if trump sent them down

So conspiracy to obstruct congress for sure. Seditious conspiracy is also on the table.
 

kaladin stormblessed

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Lots of talk about the wheel grab and all that but not many people addressing the claims of trump wanting the mags removed allowing people to walk into the event with whatever weapons they have on them. From what I’ve watched and read the removal isn’t due to big lines ups it’s just that lots of people didn’t want to go through them. How anyone can know that lots of pissed off people are assembled and are not wanting to go through a mag gate because they’re armed and then ask for those gates to be removed is just retarded.
Hutchinson said that trump was mad about the optics of a picture since the place wasn't full. So that factored into him wanting to remove the mags. He wanted to fill the place up for a picture lol

In terms of the wheel, there is alot of chit chat about that. But its irrelevant. Technically, there may have been am assault crime there. But thats not a big deal in terms of the real crimes: obstruction of congress, seditious conspiracy, etc
 

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They have to be called to testify. Let’s see if the unselect committee calls them to do so. Bet they don’t.
A good start would be a secret service rep to either deny or corroborate her story. All I’ve seen is the link you posted which I’m not putting much value in. I’d be skeptical of any link short of somebody actually in the SS. The official SS Twitter account has said nothing that I’ve seen.
 

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Hutchinson said that trump was mad about the optics of a picture since the place wasn't full. So that factored into him wanting to remove the mags. He wanted to fill the place up for a picture lol

In terms of the wheel, there is alot of chit chat about that. But its irrelevant. Technically, there may have been am assault crime there. But thats not a big deal in terms of the real crimes: obstruction of congress, seditious conspiracy, etc
The wheel grab stuff is just for character building and state of mind I think. So much of the hearings is to show a long history of intent. Each thing on its own isn’t too damning but all together is pretty bad. I don’t think anyone can argue that Trump isn’t a narcissistic ego maniac so all these stories of outrage don’t seem far fetched. Plus Hutchinson is a beautiful young woman so I’m buying everything she’s selling.
 

kaladin stormblessed

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The wheel grab stuff is just for character building and state of mind I think. So much of the hearings is to show a long history of intent. Each thing on its own isn’t too damning but all together is pretty bad. I don’t think anyone can argue that Trump isn’t a narcissistic ego maniac so all these stories of outrage don’t seem far fetched. Plus Hutchinson is a beautiful young woman so I’m buying everything she’s selling.
Yeh the side angle video of her prior testimony looked normal. But head on, that girl was shockingly beautiful

I just heard the impeachment prosecutor say something on CNN that ties into what you were saying

Although he is not yet set on seditious conspiracy for trump (tho he might be for meadows and others) he thinks obstruction of congress is pretty clear

He pointed out that cases are about the technical stuff as well as the sensational. But the public wouldn't hear about either of the stuff until the trial itself. So the January 6th hearings have effectively clued the public into Trumps manics state ahead of the trial

Here's the vid. He says it better


View: https://youtu.be/DtUaWSYCbTE
 

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Yeh the side angle video of her prior testimony looked normal. But head on, that girl was shockingly beautiful

I just heard the impeachment prosecutor say something on CNN that ties into what you were saying

Although he is not yet set on seditious conspiracy for trump (tho he might be for meadows and others) he thinks obstruction of congress is pretty clear

He pointed out that cases are about the technical stuff as well as the sensational. But the public wouldn't hear about either of the stuff until the trial itself. So the January 6th hearings have effectively clued the public into Trumps manics state ahead of the trial

Here's the vid. He says it better


View: https://youtu.be/DtUaWSYCbTE
Without seditious conspiracy you guys will be around!
 

La Paix

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I'm not following ...in English please?

Also, I missed the most obvious charge so far

- conspiracy to overturn an election
- obstruction of congress
- seditious conspiracy (the hardest to prove so far)
Your founding fathers committed Seditious conspiracy against their monarch.
 

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The satirist should do his or her homework first

The story is that Trump reached for the wheel. Engles grabbed his hand and trump reached for engles throat with his free hand.

Not sure engles was even the driver. He may have been, but I don't think that was stated
Was Trump not sitting in the back seat?
 

kaladin stormblessed

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Your founding fathers committed Seditious conspiracy against their monarch.
My family was in Ireland, England, and germany at the time. Don't associate me with those traitorous bastards

Long live the queen!

Jk. I hate the royalty too. But I also dont buy the "oh. It was a different time. Slavery was normal" bullshit

The founding fathers were all scumbags
 

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My family was in Ireland, England, and germany at the time. Don't associate me with those traitorous bastards

Long live the queen!

Jk. I hate the royalty too. But I also dont buy the "oh. It was a different time. Slavery was normal" bullshit

The founding fathers were all scumbags
I’m almost done this podcast series. Great info and puts a lot into perspective which I’m sure you appreciate. Don’t hate the players hate the game.


View: https://open.spotify.com/show/1MbzjmIo44K9nKmSKiYEnl?si=HvqhAyPBSK-Zu4v5t3oO7g
 

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La Paix

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Is it good? I like his other two (American History Tellers and American Scandal) and haven't gotten around to that one.
Ya I like it so far. Lots of dates and names that are new to me as it hits every election cycle so I gotta rewind sometimes for clarification. No different than when I was knew to hardcore history. After a few episodes and other relatable programs it all becomes much clearer. It’s a long series but I’m enjoying it. Its mind blowing the lengths some people went to to keep slavery. I can’t even begin to comprehend that state of mind.
 
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BeardOfKnowledge

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Ya I like it so far. Lots of dates and names that are new to me as it hits every election cycle so I gotta rewind sometimes for clarification. No different than when I was knew to hardcore history. After a few episodes and other relatable programs it all becomes much clearer. It’s a one series but I’m enjoying it. Its mind blowing the lengths some people went to to keep slavery. I can’t even begin to comprehend that state of mind.
If you get a chance to listen to American History Tellers there's one episode or a couple, that are on Andrew Jackson. He wasn't a guy who had slaves but felt conflicted. He was just a full on piece of shit even by the standards of his own time. He's on the $20 because he founded... the Democratic party, lol.