General The Supreme Court has overturned Roe vs Wade.

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Approve of federally-protected access to legal abortion being overturned?

  • Yes, it's murder

  • No, it's a woman's right to choose

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Shinkicker

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Jan 30, 2016
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Women

It’s their body! They can do what they want with it!

But if they get pregnant it’s not all their fault!

Wtf lol
 

Shinkicker

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I don’t believe there should be a law against abortion.

That should be between a woman and her doctor.


However, some of the rationale or opinions thrown out there blow my mind.
 

Speaker to Animals

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Teenagers represent a small percentage of abortions. The largest percentages are 20-35 years old. That’s who he called whores. Why would you think he meant teenagers?
Because they start early and without the experience to use protection responsibly.

Also this is the question Leigh @Leigh asked:

"But are you guys actually fine with girls being denied abortion?"

See?
 

Shinkicker

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What about men and their rights?

A woman should be required by law to notify the father within 5 days of finding out she is pregnant. And he should have a say in the decision. If he doesn’t want the baby he should have an option to opt out of parental responsibility if she chooses to have the baby.
 

Shinkicker

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Because they start early and without the experience to use protection responsibly.

Also this is the question Leigh @Leigh asked:

"But are you guys actually fine with girls being denied abortion?"

See?
But he clearly said that the largest percentage of people who get abortions are whores. That’s women age 20 to 35.

Some people interchange descriptive words. Girl/woman/female
 

Shinkicker

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I could agree, if you wouldn't call teenagers doing what their body chemistry urges them to do "whores" which is obviously meant to dehumanize them.
Also leaves out the other responsible party
Are you saying it’s okay for teenage girls to have sex every time they get the ‘body chemistry urge’?
 

Speaker to Animals

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But he clearly said that the largest percentage of people who get abortions are whores. That’s women age 20 to 35.

Some people interchange descriptive words. Girl/woman/female
Mmm.

I had taken "whores" to be a dismissive epithet and not an actual reference to whores.
 

Filthy

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Pew?
  • In 2019, unmarried women accounted for 86% of all abortions (CDC).
  • Among married women, 4% of 2019 pregnancies (excluding spontaneous miscarriages) ended in abortion. Among unmarried women, 28% ended in abortion (CDC).
  • Women in their 20s accounted for the majority of abortions in 2019 and had the highest abortion rates (CDC).
  • Adolescents under 15 years obtained 0.2% of all 2019 abortions; women aged 15–19 years accounted for 8.5% (CDC).

what does marital status have to do with it?
should you have to be married to have a kid?
 

Filthy

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Im certainly opposed to abortion being used as a method of contraception, so whores can live irresponsibly. And unfortunately a large % of abortions fall into that category.
how do you propose to legally differentiate the whores from the people who are using abortion responsibly, without giving the government the authority to mandate vaccines?

the power to forbid is the power to mandate.
 

MMAHAWK

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what does marital status have to do with it?
should you have to be married to have a kid?
You said 2/3 are over 35
Hard sell that abortions are family planning and not birth control when like 86% are single women.
 

Filthy

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You said 2/3 are over 35
Hard sell that abortions are family planning and not birth control when like 86% are single women.
assume I'm wrong about the stat.
single can mean divorced.

if you're single and have an abortion, you're a whore, but if you're married and have an abortion you're family planning?

what does the demographic of abortions have to do with the reasons women get abortion?

I'm amazed that you guys think there's this huge demographic of women that would rather have an invasive and risky procedure instead of taking The Pill or using a condom.

do you and Wild @Wild think that condoms and birth control should be free and/or Over The Counter?
 

MMAHAWK

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assume I'm wrong about the stat.
single can mean divorced.

if you're single and have an abortion, you're a whore, but if you're married and have an abortion you're family planning?

what does the demographic of abortions have to do with the reasons women get abortion?

I'm amazed that you guys think there's this huge demographic of women that would rather have an invasive and risky procedure instead of taking The Pill or using a condom.

do you and Wild @Wild think that condoms and birth control should be free and/or Over The Counter?
I never called anyone a whore
I was questioning your claims.
 

kaladin stormblessed

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Mmm.

I had taken "whores" to be a dismissive epithet and not an actual reference to whores.
as a fan of Witcher 3, i've adopted the term "strumpets" when referring to "whores" since the word "whores" has historically been used to imply bad behavior. but there's nothing wrong those that choose to engage in sex work

edit: and the term "strumpets" sounds cute. even entrepreneurial lol
 
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Speaker to Animals

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as a fan of Witcher 3, i've adopted the term "strumpets" when referring to "whores" since the word "whores" has historically been used to imply bad behavior. but there's nothing wrong those that choose to engage in sex work
I'm all for whores... except that they mostly come from difficult backgrounds that include abuse, and don't have a ton of opportunity to rise above their station in life.

It's a largely exploitative line of work and the women involved will raise unwanted kids in that same shitty environment, and the kids grow up to be shitty parents, and so it goes
 

MMAHAWK

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understood, I was talking to you and Wild @Wild.

but how do you reconcile "no vaccine mandate" with "no abortion"?
do you and I have Body Autonomy or not?
Ive stated my personal opinion on abortion more than once on this forum. I’ve never said it should be completely banned but more in line with the rest of the civilized world. I’ve also seen a baby born at 21 weeks and grow up to be the most awesome little girl on the planet.
As far as body autonomy. The mandates made my body my choice a joke. Told liberal family members 2 years ago that they were setting the president and giving people a reason to overturn roe