General The Supreme Court has overturned Roe vs Wade.

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Kingtony87

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seems like "birth" is still a better line for a law.
Fuck the pain and suffering caused to innocent lives purely for convenience in the meantime. I think that’s a terrible line.

Since we disagree perhaps we should let people, say locally in the states they live in, vote to elect legislators to craft law for themselves?
 

TheFifthScallop

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I mean condoms, the pill, pulling out, vasectomies, tubes tied, dental dams, those weird copper implants, plan B, and loads of other birth control exist. You got a magic solution for something that will be the thing that gets people to not want/need one?
Other forms of birth control are under attack right now.
 

Filthy

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Fuck the pain and suffering caused to innocent lives purely for convenience in the meantime. I think that’s a terrible line.

Since we disagree perhaps we should let people, say locally in the states they live in, vote to elect legislators to craft law for themselves?
The 10th Amendment is strong in this one.

 

TheFifthScallop

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Fuck the pain and suffering caused to innocent lives purely for convenience in the meantime. I think that’s a terrible line.

Since we disagree perhaps we should let people, say locally in the states they live in, vote to elect legislators to craft law for themselves?
Certain states are making it criminal to cross state lines to get access to safe abortions.
 

Kingtony87

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Other forms of birth control are under attack right now.
Name one place in our country that has lost any access to any form of birth control beyond abortions?

and if they do I’ll first to join you in saying it’s fucked and arguing they should have access to said birth control returned.

Also this really doesn’t factor into what I’ve been discussing which is that elective late term abortions of healthy babies (the leading cause of them) should be banned.
 

Kingtony87

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Certain states are making it criminal to cross state lines to get access to safe abortions.
Have these passed anywhere.


I cannot imagine a way courts would let this stand. Freedom of movement is baked in. Not to mention any manner of jurisdictional matters and medical privacy matters that would come into play. They’d be impossible to logistically enforce.

Also if shown to exist I’ll concur and say those are bad laws and should be repealed.

but that still doesn’t speak to allowing elective late term abortions of healthy babies.
 

TheFifthScallop

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Name one place in our country that has lost any access to any form of birth control beyond abortions?

and if they do I’ll first to join you in saying it’s fucked and arguing they should have access to said birth control returned.

Also this really doesn’t factor into what I’ve been discussing which is that elective late term abortions of healthy babies (the leading cause of them) should be banned.
You brought up other forms of birth control, and if you’ve been reading the news, there are several politicians in different states that are now setting their sites on getting Plan B pill banned. There’s even politicians who have now stated that they want to go after birth control. Ohio state representative says she would consider banning birth control following abortion outlaw
 

Kingtony87

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via which enumerated power? or privacy/body autonomy isn't really a right, it's a state-granted privilege?
The same one that allows for murder laws. Our disagreement is about where ones right to life begins. You think birth a think it’s a bit earlier.
 

Kingtony87

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You brought up other forms of birth control, and if you’ve been reading the news, there are several politicians in different states that are now setting their sites on getting Plan B pill banned. There’s even politicians who have now stated that they want to go after birth control. Ohio state representative says she would consider banning birth control following abortion outlaw
Soo nowhere has this taken place then. Outside of a few politicians spouting off. To which I very much disagree with them and if they happened to live in a district I vote id gladly vote against them.
 

TheFifthScallop

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Soo nowhere has this taken place then. Outside of a few politicians spouting off. To which I very much disagree with them and if they happened to live in a district I vote id gladly vote against them.
dude, politicians are actively trying to make it happen. That should be worrisome to everyone.
 

Kingtony87

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dude, politicians are actively trying to make it happen. That should be worrisome to everyone.
so should i be terrified of the things that democrats have spouted off on too. I mean if that's the case i can see storming the capitol. If you truly thought the electoral college, the senate, free speech, 2a, open borders, packing the court and more were really going to happen.....