This wasn’t my quote btw. Go to bed lol
General The democrats just surrendered
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My quote is correct clown!
Your replying to the quote like it was from me lol. No one was talking to anyways.
Because you are dead wrong.
Peace and friendship don't win the day.
Strong violent men do.
So that the children don't have to.
It was true before Jesus walked the silk road and it's true after, nothing changes except the reasons we fight.
And they don't change much either.
Are you going to ban rocks too? Obsidian? Antlers?
I could walk into any business or school and start dropping people with a flathead shovel if I wanted to. I could put up a significant body count before the police arrived because whose gonna stop me in a disarmed world?
Do we ban shovels?
Or do we acknowledge that bad guys need to die and an armed society is far less likely to be seen as potential victims.
Guns are banned in many countries, the murder rate usually increases and the suicides become chemical and rope based. Nothing changes in the metrics except the state has more ability to motherfuck its citizens.
Freedom is scary and comes without guarantee.
Years ago a friend tried to talk me out of being the way I am, because he loved me. He said "inside dogs live longer than outside dogs, what are you doing? You are wasting your talents for people that don't care about you"
My answer was that I care about them and they just don't understand, they don't have to, if I'm gonna die it won't be inside. And we all die, eventually anyway.
If there's an after beyond this place, I have zero concern with my place in it. I'll face anyone and tell em what I've done, good and bad. Even the big guy.
I'd love to have that conversation tbh.
What exactly are you going to say?
Sounds good. Why take away the AR then?
i already went over this lol.
I don’t value this world or anything in it. I already made that peace a few years ago. Again your mentality and values are different.
my views and values are those of what Jesus preached. Or at least the first few important messages he preached. I try my best to live that way
I don’t care about who has more machismo or who thinks is the toughest around. I’ve hung around drug dealers, pimps and killers when I was younger. That was me being young and dumb. I’ve seen and done enough in my life to know it’s all fake…
You did. I replied when I read it. Didn't realize I was a page behind. That's my bad
And I already went over what I think needs to be done with guns and proper protection in our schools
Apparently that includes your daughter and her potential children.
Father of the year, let Jesus take the wheel...
common sense lets be serious, place any weapon on a table it will not kill anyone sitting there
you take way guns they will use knives, you take away knives they will use clubs, and so on, and so on, and so on
Every person alive has a right to protect them selves and their families from evil/broken people. Today evil is everywhere and your chance of it finding you or your family has gone through the roof.
What makes anyone think they have any right just because they personally do not like something, can't understand something they can take any right away from others?
For people that lived so long ago, with such limited education, I am so glad George Washington, James Madison, Benjamin Franklin, Alexander Hamilton and Thomas Jefferson all knew there would be some people uncapable of understanding some basic principles of human rights
Imagine how different everything would be (individually/country/globally) if they didn't do everything they did
you take way guns they will use knives, you take away knives they will use clubs, and so on, and so on, and so on
Every person alive has a right to protect them selves and their families from evil/broken people. Today evil is everywhere and your chance of it finding you or your family has gone through the roof.
What makes anyone think they have any right just because they personally do not like something, can't understand something they can take any right away from others?
For people that lived so long ago, with such limited education, I am so glad George Washington, James Madison, Benjamin Franklin, Alexander Hamilton and Thomas Jefferson all knew there would be some people uncapable of understanding some basic principles of human rights
Imagine how different everything would be (individually/country/globally) if they didn't do everything they did
nah my daughter knows I love her. I’ve been raising her right. To put your love in Christ first because your time here is short.
Jesus first then my family. That’s what I value and that’s about it.
money, nice cars, expensive stuff etc all that stuff doesn’t matter to me. I’m not someone who values materialistic shit like I did when I was younger
This is true, lol.
I still like you and care about you and your family
You can believe it or choose not to.
I kept arguing with you because I believe my bullshit, just like you believe yours.
Good night brother, we should probably both take a break and think on it a little..
That’s why we are here my brotha. I love you guys lol. I wish no harm on anyone, especially those that have children.
I’ve been with you guys for 14 years. I can’t quit you guys.
we had a good conversation. It’s okay to speak about differences. I have family that have different views and I’m sure they think my suck too haha.
I’ve been with you guys for 14 years. I can’t quit you guys.
we had a good conversation. It’s okay to speak about differences. I have family that have different views and I’m sure they think my suck too haha.
Even that weirdo Mutant who thinks I’m a vampire. Love you too lol.
So punnish law abiding citizens for the actions of criminals. That's basically what you're saying.
Fuck that logic. How dose that make sense at all in any situation.
And as a father myself, let me tell you, if you think this would at all be a net benefit( to restrict/take the guns )then you are massively wrong. The world would be far better off with more people armed, skilled and ability to use them.
Lets get this straight. The government dose not give a single shit if people die. It is a threat to them if people are well armed and they get out of line though. Thats why they want to take peoples guns. That's the ONLY reason they want them gone.
Also worth noting. I am Australian. Don't ever use us as a good example for gun control. We are puppets of America like every other western country. The only thing keeping the free world together right now is the first second amendment in America.
That faked up shit you call a democracy right now would be completely gone and we'd all be totally controlled by the criminal operation of government the day you guys got your guns taken away.
And I'm not talking about the limp wristed faggot politicians when I say government. I mean the people actually running the government.
Like I said I don’t trust anyone with a gun. But if I had to it would be military or police.
I had a guy that was part of my couples small group. My pastor made the mistake of bringing up gun control on the first day of group lol. He had a license to carry and was also two weeks sober. His wife seemed on the edge and nervous when we talked about it.
obviously it’s something that has triggered him and he’s probably threatened his wife in the past. She wanted to stop talking about it. That was their first and last small group.
another couple who were way older. Guy was an ex cop. Anytime his wife would tease him he would openly say how he would shoot her etc.
Joking or not, I didn’t find that shit funny, or was comfortable with my wife and baby there.
so these are two older men I was not comfortable with then carrying. One had a drinking problem and the other liked to jokingly threaten his wife.
I had a guy that was part of my couples small group. My pastor made the mistake of bringing up gun control on the first day of group lol. He had a license to carry and was also two weeks sober. His wife seemed on the edge and nervous when we talked about it.
obviously it’s something that has triggered him and he’s probably threatened his wife in the past. She wanted to stop talking about it. That was their first and last small group.
another couple who were way older. Guy was an ex cop. Anytime his wife would tease him he would openly say how he would shoot her etc.
Joking or not, I didn’t find that shit funny, or was comfortable with my wife and baby there.
so these are two older men I was not comfortable with then carrying. One had a drinking problem and the other liked to jokingly threaten his wife.
Jesus fuck, no point in arguing about guns with a person who calls an extended magazine a fucking banana clip.
that saves me the retyping
I'm not saying you're trolling but it almost seems like it. I almost hope you are.
If you aren't then I appreciate that you are empathetic and are doing what you think is best for your daughter and the world she grows up in.
However you are so wrong. About everything.
I can assure you despite your anecdotes your daughter will be much safer I. A world where citizens are well armed.
Remember the BLM riots. Even hard nut liberals wanted a gun . Now imagine when ( not if ) there's an extended blackout. You're going to want her and her husband in the future to be well armed.
The biggest killers by gun violence are government military. If you want to stop people dying and make the world safer then all governments should immediately disarme. If that happened and citizens are well armed and have the right to use them justly then we be so close to world peace it wouldn't be funny.
Those people you mention would not be detered any less by police with guns and imprisonment than by any citizen with a gun that would " rectify" the injustice quickly and permanently if they were to commit one of those acts you mentioned.
There are so many crimes that are committed , like break and enters , that wouldn't even occur to the perpetrators to do if they felt a real threat of being shot dead , not buy the authority's but by their victim.
I'm telling you . The main point of this is that if America looses the right to bare arms government tyranny will sweep the globe almost immediately. I'm not being hyperbolic.
You think arming up mentally ill people will solve these school shootings etc? Or arming everyone like it’s the Wild Wild West?
You guys keep talking about losing your guns etc.
I’m talking about certain guns that you don’t need in your homes.
-Mentally ill people don’t need guns. That includes people that have substance abuse issues, or anger issues, suffer from PTSD or is bi polar etc
-if you’re aren’t any of that. You still need to have a proper background investigation.
-you don’t need semiautomatic weapons in your home. Go shoot them at the range.
-you don’t need modded weapons either.
-there’s plenty of thriving countries that are gun less and don’t suffer the crimes or shootings we do.
You guys keep talking about losing your guns etc.
I’m talking about certain guns that you don’t need in your homes.
-Mentally ill people don’t need guns. That includes people that have substance abuse issues, or anger issues, suffer from PTSD or is bi polar etc
-if you’re aren’t any of that. You still need to have a proper background investigation.
-you don’t need semiautomatic weapons in your home. Go shoot them at the range.
-you don’t need modded weapons either.
-there’s plenty of thriving countries that are gun less and don’t suffer the crimes or shootings we do.
It's self correcting. Anyone mentally ill trying to commit an offence with a gun or any weapon will be permanently illimated from committing any futher offences. In a lot of cases before the crime even happens.
The government cannot be trusted to keep anyone safe. They give absolutely no shits about anyone
The justice system is totally broken.
They will abuse their subjects if they are unarmed. This has been proven.
If shit hits the fan do you want to be unarmed or armed ?
Media totally lies and distorts the amount of " safety " and crime statistics in countries like Australia regarding guns by choosing what they report.
The real criminals you need to be protected from is government.
You can't delegate authority to someone that you yourself don't have.
You're living in an absolutely fantasy land if you think you will be safer with gun restrictions. It's the exact opposite.
Like rent controls might be well intentiond but have the exact opposite effect.
The best solution is deregulation. Always.
Calls to get rid of ppls rights to self defense after a school shooting but never any calls to ban cars after accidents. Ppl value fast transportation over the right to self defense. Pathetic. In the last month near me there have been half a dozen cars accident deaths and a baby killed by a dog. Zero school shootings