General OFFICIAL President Trump Harris Debate Thread (9pm ET tonight)

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Hauler

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Local hip-hop station just said the debate was fact checked and Trump lied 37 times. Harris lied once, but it wasn't an outright lie it was an embellishment.

They also said Harris was poised, intelligent and presidential - and exactly what this country needs right now. Then they said "vote for whoever you want - but there's only one obvious choice."

Just sharing an unbiased report from a demographic that might be outside of what you typically hear.
 

Flying Knee

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Local hip-hop station just said the debate was fact checked and Trump lied 37 times. Harris lied once, but it wasn't an outright lie it was an embellishment.

They also said Harris was poised, intelligent and presidential - and exactly what this country needs right now. Then they said "vote for whoever you want - but there's only one obvious choice."

Just sharing an unbiased report from a demographic that might be outside of what you typically hear.
what's interesting it is. I work at a union shop and a lot of the workers see how it was three versus one... but because of that debate, a lot of management actually went to favor Harris. Its backwards times, because the unions usually favor the Democrats
 

Hauler

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what's interesting it is. I work at a union shop and a lot of the workers see how it was three versus one... but because of that debate, a lot of management actually went to favor Harris. Its backwards times, because the unions usually favor the Democrats
Anyone looking for a reason to vote for Harris found it in that debate.

Their plan was to use Trump's narcissism against him by having him defend himself instead of pointing out the current administration's failures. Trump either didn't pick up on it or the urge to praise/defend himself is completely uncontrollable.

It was obviously a 3 on 1 debate, but Trump could have done a much better job if he kept his eye on the prize.

They might actually pull this coup off.
 

Flying Knee

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Anyone looking for a reason to vote for Harris found it in that debate.

Their plan was to use Trump's narcissism against him by having him defend himself instead of pointing out the current administration's failures. Trump either didn't pick up on it or the urge to praise/defend himself is completely uncontrollable.

It was obviously a 3 on 1 debate, but Trump could have done a much better job if he kept his eye on the prize.

They might actually pull this coup off.
Thats typical Trump tho.
 

vad

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I think there is still hope for Trump to win this. Tulsi makes some great points here. This was less of a Trump loss than it was a sham of a debate as a whole.
 

vad

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If Vance does debate Walz he better fucking deliver the goods and show everyone why he deserves to be there.
 

scourge

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Vivek would have eviscerated Kamala. Like bad. Even Vance is really good at dealing with hostile media. He speaks calmly, addresses challenges and sticks to his points. Trump has never been good at that. He let her and the moderators get to him.

Hopefully he didn't just debate himself into Rikers Island. If Kamala wins, the dems will feel they can do anything with no repercussions. They are already targeting any opposition with their lawfare. It will get insane when they know they can't be touched. And after they leagalize the miilions ans millions of immigrants, the republicans will never win again. The dems will rule with an iron fist. They will imprison Trump just like they did with the crazy harsh sentences for Jan 6 protesters.
 

kvr28

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This was less of a Trump loss than it was a sham of a debate as a whole.
Agreed, the fact checking of trump and not her, unmuting harris's mic while trump was speaking, them asking two consecutive questions and then over speaking him while they would just let harris ramble.

Not hammering her when she never answered what was asked, never answered if she met putin, asked if she thought america was better off than 4 years ago, rambled on about being middle class.
 

Barry_BondsMVP

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do not cherry pick. Read Corinthians 6:20.

I understand your heart is probably in the right place, but if you're going to claim to follow God and be a good Christian you have to follow the teaching in the good book.

I hope you pray for these people and they find Christ.

while I do not judge these people, I will also not support the movement.
I did a Bible studies on the books of Corinthians. I really like those books. Especially because it deals with Paul and the church’s. Paul was my favorite because he went from a stone cold killer to a follower and disciple of Christ.

Sexual Immorality deals with a broad range of things. I was immoral because I did have sex with my wife prior to marriage. I sinned. I’m sure there’s a lot on here whom have done the same or cheated on their spouses. But I’m not one to judge.

as for the LGBQT issue. I’ve shared a few stories on the OG on girls I know who’ve become dykes or taken hormones etc.

One girl who’s close to my family was 12 and unknown to the family was being molested by her father’s cousin. That went on for a while and she ended up having a lot of mental health issues. Understandably so. She turned away from God because of it and wanted to be a boy. I completely understand why she would want to be different and never trust men again.

One of my ex co workers at my old job was a dyke and she told me her past traumas. She was molested by her Grandpa and was rapped by someone else at 18 and had a baby.

Point is, before judging their appearances or decisions we need to understand the root of the issues.

Mary of Magdalene was apparently a prostitute or someone that was sexually interested more so than others. Jesus didn’t judge her. He brought her in helped her with her sins and she became a follower.

as Christians we aren’t suppose to judge others that sin since we are sinners. We’re suppose to lead by example with what Jesus taught hoping that leads them to God.

Now as a flawed human. There’s certain sins I couldn’t forgive. Anything that deals with harming children is the biggest one to me.
 

vad

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I did a Bible studies on the books of Corinthians. I really like those books. Especially because it deals with Paul and the church’s. Paul was my favorite because he went from a stone cold killer to a follower and disciple of Christ.

Sexual Immorality deals with a broad range of things. I was immoral because I did have sex with my wife prior to marriage. I sinned. I’m sure there’s a lot on here whom have done the same or cheated on their spouses. But I’m not one to judge.

as for the LGBQT issue. I’ve shared a few stories on the OG on girls I know who’ve become dykes or taken hormones etc.

One girl who’s close to my family was 12 and unknown to the family was being molested by her father’s cousin. That went on for a while and she ended up having a lot of mental health issues. Understandably so. She turned away from God because of it and wanted to be a boy. I completely understand why she would want to be different and never trust men again.

One of my ex co workers at my old job was a dyke and she told me her past traumas. She was molested by her Grandpa and was rapped by someone else at 18 and had a baby.

Point is, before judging their appearances or decisions we need to understand the root of the issues.

Mary of Magdalene was apparently a prostitute or someone that was sexually interested more so than others. Jesus didn’t judge her. He brought her in helped her with her sins and she became a follower.

as Christians we aren’t suppose to judge others that sin since we are sinners. We’re suppose to lead by example with what Jesus taught hoping that leads them to God.

Now as a flawed human. There’s certain sins I couldn’t forgive. Anything that deals with harming children is the biggest one to me.
What did Mary do after she began to follow Jesus? Did she happily and without restraint keep on doing what she was doing?
 

Barry_BondsMVP

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What did Mary do after she began to follow Jesus? Did she keep on doing what she was doing?
Who knows what she did after Jesus died. But at the time she wasn’t.

how many of us continue to sin knowing we shouldn’t?
 

vad

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Who knows what she did after Jesus died. But at the time she wasn’t.

how many of us continue to sin knowing we shouldn’t?
That is not correct. We can infer a changed lifestyle based on other passages, for example she is often mentioned by name amongst "women" who were around Jesus including being present as his crucifixtion. She was also likely chosen to be the first person to discover his resurrection, was devoted to the care of his body after his death by continually returning to his resting place. By the end of it, this was not some hooker but a devoted follow of Jesus, and an example among a community of primarily men as to what following Jesus really meant. There is zero evidence that supports her continuing her sinful lifestyle after she made her choice to follow.

Jesus did not preach acceptance without repentance.

Of course we all sin and continue to do so. Every time we jack off, its a sin. While many of us Christians will stave it off we ultimately give in and thus experience a period of regret and renewed sense of urgency to work harder to avoid the trap. We dont just whack off 6x per day and call it good because Jesus understands and thinks its fine. Its not fine, we know its not fine, and we continue to strongly limit things that would cause us to fall.
 

Flying Knee

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I did a Bible studies on the books of Corinthians. I really like those books. Especially because it deals with Paul and the church’s. Paul was my favorite because he went from a stone cold killer to a follower and disciple of Christ.

Sexual Immorality deals with a broad range of things. I was immoral because I did have sex with my wife prior to marriage. I sinned. I’m sure there’s a lot on here whom have done the same or cheated on their spouses. But I’m not one to judge.

as for the LGBQT issue. I’ve shared a few stories on the OG on girls I know who’ve become dykes or taken hormones etc.

One girl who’s close to my family was 12 and unknown to the family was being molested by her father’s cousin. That went on for a while and she ended up having a lot of mental health issues. Understandably so. She turned away from God because of it and wanted to be a boy. I completely understand why she would want to be different and never trust men again.

One of my ex co workers at my old job was a dyke and she told me her past traumas. She was molested by her Grandpa and was rapped by someone else at 18 and had a baby.

Point is, before judging their appearances or decisions we need to understand the root of the issues.

Mary of Magdalene was apparently a prostitute or someone that was sexually interested more so than others. Jesus didn’t judge her. He brought her in helped her with her sins and she became a follower.

as Christians we aren’t suppose to judge others that sin since we are sinners. We’re suppose to lead by example with what Jesus taught hoping that leads them to God.

Now as a flawed human. There’s certain sins I couldn’t forgive. Anything that deals with harming children is the biggest one to me.
right but judging and supporting are two different things. Im sorry to say the democrats generally SUPPORT these things
 

Lukewarm Carl

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the urge to praise himself is completely uncontrollable.
I removed the "defend" because that's justified and human.

The part I left is easily, easily one of his biggest faults as a person, let alone as a leader. Zero fucking humility. If you constantly have to call out how amazing you are at everything while telling everyone else that they're shit, you should expect for people to call you out on all of the bullshit. He's damn near 80 and has the self control of a 4 year old.
 

Hank Moody

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It was mostly mud slinging on both sides. Nothing of real substance or detail from either one.
The moderators were pretty unfair to Trump, but that's what everyone expected
 

Hauler

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LOL @ these emoticons

I just hit someone with a Hitler just because I wanted to see what it looked like.

Sorry bruh.