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kvr28

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Surprised not seeing more of this, with training, glove size and wars in the cage they are taking significant more damage than any other sport.
 

Barry_BondsMVP

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Mar 3, 2015
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Was gonna say this but at least in boxing you have a count, in MMA it gets stopped because someone either isn't defending themselves well enough or they are el sparco
you spar more in boxing as well. MMA you have wrestling and bjj days. Also in MMA there’s fights where there can be minimal damage because of superior ground game.
 

mysticmac

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Oct 18, 2015
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Was gonna say this but at least in boxing you have a count, in MMA it gets stopped because someone either isn't defending themselves well enough or they are el sparco
Counts make things worse. How many times have you seen in boxing where the fighter gets on his feet and allowed to continue only to be knocked down again in the next exchange? Repeated blows to the head are more likely to cause brain damage. In MMA, once the ref steps in, it is over. The fighter can argue he's fine all he wants. It doesn't matter.
 

SongExotic2

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Counts make things worse. How many times have you seen in boxing where the fighter gets on his feet and allowed to continue only to be knocked down again in the next exchange? Repeated blows to the head are more likely to cause brain damage. In MMA, once the ref steps in, it is over. The fighter can argue he's fine all he wants. It doesn't matter.
I understand completely. That's what I'm saying. I probably said it bad.
 

SongExotic2

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What I'm getting at is a fighter can take a count as a breather sometimes to regroup, look at froch, he got knocked down early in 2 fights and won. Probably took a hundred more punches at least in each fight.

I like the count but I don't like the country also. Look at nganno Vs AJ or AJ Vs dubois.
 

SongExotic2

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you spar more in boxing as well. MMA you have wrestling and bjj days. Also in MMA there’s fights where there can be minimal damage because of superior ground game.
Or you can also have fights like Cain jds or hendo Vs shogun
 

Barry_BondsMVP

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Pacquiao-Márquez

Gatti-Ward

Barrera-Morales

Corrales-Castillo

Wilder vs Fury 3

Israel Vasquez vs Rafa Marquez

Bradley vs Prodvodnikov
 

SongExotic2

ATM 3 CHAMPION OF THE WORLD. #ASSBLOODS
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Pacquiao-Márquez

Gatti-Ward

Barrera-Morales

Corrales-Castillo

Wilder vs Fury 3

Israel Vasquez vs Rafa Marquez

Bradley vs Prodvodnikov
PAC Vs Marquez was great. Especially when he ironed the druggy out flat. It was insane
 

Dead Bluff

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you spar more in boxing as well. MMA you have wrestling and bjj days. Also in MMA there’s fights where there can be minimal damage because of superior ground game.
Hmmmmm but when there is a punch, knee, kick or elbow on the button it's often lights out (concussion) vs. way more punches with more padding over more rounds, and sparing.
It would be an interesting analysis.

As much as I hate Barry winning anything besides Niner bets.....A.I. agrees with him.

Boxers are more likely to suffer brain damage than MMA fighters:

Boxing
Around 20% of professional boxers develop chronic traumatic brain injury (CTBI). Risk factors include the number of bouts, age of retirement, and duration of career. A 1969 British study found that one in six retired professional boxers suffered serious brain damage.

MMA
MMA fighters are at risk for brain atrophy and neurodegenerative conditions due to repetitive head impacts. However, a Boston systematic review found that MMA is a safer sport than boxing when it comes to brain injury. The review found that 80% of reported cases of CTE were from boxing, with MMA accounting for only 6%.
Here are some other differences between boxing and MMA that may affect brain damage:
Strikes: Boxers receive more strikes to the head than MMA fighters because boxing is limited to punches from the beltline and up. In MMA, fighters can strike to the body and legs, or grapple.
Safety regulations: MMA safety regulations developed faster than boxing regulations.
Head protection: MMA fighters only use mouthguards, which provide limited protection from impact forces.

Here are some other differences between boxing and MMA that may affect brain damage:

Strikes: Boxers receive more strikes to the head than MMA fighters because boxing is limited to punches from the beltline and up. In MMA, fighters can strike to the body and legs, or grapple.

Safety regulations: MMA safety regulations developed faster than boxing regulations.

Head protection: MMA fighters only use mouthguards, which provide limited protection from impact forces.

Generative AI is experimental.
 

ArodJohns

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There were a couple things that I didn’t like with the favoritism but it was a couple particularly brutal fights in particular that ruined my enjoyment of the sport.

When my mother passed away, I did all sorts of research on brain damage. One of the things that kept getting brought up is fencing posture and how bad things are when that happens.

If you go back and watch Gaethje vs Ferguson, pay very particular attention to the fourth round. About halfway through it, Gaethje hit Ferguson just above the eyebrow. For a split second, Ferguson has a seizure that fits the definition of fencing. I lost a whole lot of regard for Justin Gaethje and Trevor Whitman over Whitman telling Gaethje to pull back on his punches instead of trying to win the fight (and Gaethje for not ending the fight when he could).
 

Dead Bluff

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Feb 25, 2023
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The fence thing happens a lot in bullriding practice pens. Chin or head hits the top of a bulls skull or a horn. It's usually instantaneous lights out. Had a kid back in the day get pulled down, the impact knocked him out of his rope and on to the ground with his arms sticking straight up and his whole body twitching. He came back a few weeks later to just watch. He was permanently cross-eyed, and not just a little.

Helmets help but it takes a while to get used to the added weight on your head/balance.
 

Lamont Cranston

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Jan 15, 2015
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The problem with MMA is regulation.

You can show up at an event as a spectator and end up fighting on the card.

There needs to be better regulation around getting licenses etc.

Also, it's easier to claim to be an MMA fighter than it is to be a boxer.

People watching know when someone trains or not and most guys who want to be fighters are actually too lazy to train.

In that respect, it's harder to get away with being a dumbass in boxing then MMA.