General 20,000,000 "Missing Votes"

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Papi Chingon

Domesticated Hombre
Oct 19, 2015
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Anyone still doubting the massive fraud in 2020?

As votes continue to be counted, Donald Trump’s lead feels so massive that it’s hard to see how Kamala Harris didn’t significantly underperform the Biden Benchmark of 2020. She didn’t just blow it; she blew it bigly.

In 2020, there were 81+ million votes cast for Biden (11 million more than Obama, allegedly) and 74+ million cast for Trump — a grand total of over 155 million votes. Currently, there’s about 138 million total votes counted for the 2024 cycle. Trump is less than 3 million short of his 2020 benchmark, meaning the bulk of the almost 20 million vote deficit is coming from the Harris camp. Of course, votes in some of the big blue states will continue to trickle in for days (or weeks?!) after the fact, and Harris’ final count will continue to rise. But this is still a drastic difference for the morning after; where the hell did all these Biden loyalists go?
The West Coast is most glaring: Harris is over 800,000 votes short of 2020 numbers in Washington (64% reporting); 400,000 votes short in Oregon (73% reporting); 500,000 votes short in Colorado (76% reporting); and a whopping 5.5 million votes short in California (58% reporting). This will likely continue to narrow. But take California, where the split is 57% to 40% Harris. If she stays on the same trajectory, that will still put her almost 2 million shy of Biden’s 11+ million votes in the state. Even if she ramps it up to Biden’s 63% to 34%, that’s only 10.3 million votes for Harris.

Yet even states with high reporting still show Harris significantly behind. At 99% reporting, Harris is about 450,000 votes shy of Biden in Texas. At 94% reporting, she’s down almost 1 million votes in New York. She’s down about 650,000 votes in Illinois with 91% of the vote in, and down roughly the same in Florida with 99% reporting.
Across the Sunbelt states of Arizona (64% reporting), Louisiana (99% reporting), Mississippi (73% reporting), Alabama (99% reporting) and Georgia (99% reporting), she’s down roughly another 600,000 votes combined.

Heading up to the north, Harris trails in Maryland (82% reporting) by an additional 500,000 votes. She’s down about 200,000 votes in Virginia (99% reporting), but that has nothing on New Jersey. At 90% reporting, Harris is about 500,00 votes shy of Biden in the state. At 93% reporting, Harris is about 300,000 votes down in deep blue Massachusetts, and another 200,000 shy in Connecticut (85% reporting). In Ohio (96% reporting), she’s down roughly another 200,00 thousand votes.

There are smaller deficits elsewhere, but add it all together, and you’ll get pretty close to the total margin from 2020.
 

scourge

Well-Known Member
Jun 14, 2021
331
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They're not "missing". It's just that because of mail-in voting and accepting all the late ballots the Dems were able to create votes for all the people that didn't vote themselves
 

CuddleBug

Well-Known Member
Nov 18, 2023
243
420
In this election and the last one Trump received more votes than any other presidential candidate in history... except for Biden in 2020... such a strange situation that will forever be a mystery.
 

meatplow

Member
Aug 13, 2024
13
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Anyone still doubting the massive fraud in 2020?

As votes continue to be counted, Donald Trump’s lead feels so massive that it’s hard to see how Kamala Harris didn’t significantly underperform the Biden Benchmark of 2020. She didn’t just blow it; she blew it bigly.

In 2020, there were 81+ million votes cast for Biden (11 million more than Obama, allegedly) and 74+ million cast for Trump — a grand total of over 155 million votes. Currently, there’s about 138 million total votes counted for the 2024 cycle. Trump is less than 3 million short of his 2020 benchmark, meaning the bulk of the almost 20 million vote deficit is coming from the Harris camp. Of course, votes in some of the big blue states will continue to trickle in for days (or weeks?!) after the fact, and Harris’ final count will continue to rise. But this is still a drastic difference for the morning after; where the hell did all these Biden loyalists go?
The West Coast is most glaring: Harris is over 800,000 votes short of 2020 numbers in Washington (64% reporting); 400,000 votes short in Oregon (73% reporting); 500,000 votes short in Colorado (76% reporting); and a whopping 5.5 million votes short in California (58% reporting). This will likely continue to narrow. But take California, where the split is 57% to 40% Harris. If she stays on the same trajectory, that will still put her almost 2 million shy of Biden’s 11+ million votes in the state. Even if she ramps it up to Biden’s 63% to 34%, that’s only 10.3 million votes for Harris.

Yet even states with high reporting still show Harris significantly behind. At 99% reporting, Harris is about 450,000 votes shy of Biden in Texas. At 94% reporting, she’s down almost 1 million votes in New York. She’s down about 650,000 votes in Illinois with 91% of the vote in, and down roughly the same in Florida with 99% reporting.
Across the Sunbelt states of Arizona (64% reporting), Louisiana (99% reporting), Mississippi (73% reporting), Alabama (99% reporting) and Georgia (99% reporting), she’s down roughly another 600,000 votes combined.

Heading up to the north, Harris trails in Maryland (82% reporting) by an additional 500,000 votes. She’s down about 200,000 votes in Virginia (99% reporting), but that has nothing on New Jersey. At 90% reporting, Harris is about 500,00 votes shy of Biden in the state. At 93% reporting, Harris is about 300,000 votes down in deep blue Massachusetts, and another 200,000 shy in Connecticut (85% reporting). In Ohio (96% reporting), she’s down roughly another 200,00 thousand votes.

There are smaller deficits elsewhere, but add it all together, and you’ll get pretty close to the total margin from 2020.
I pointed out the same to my Kamala voting wife, her response was that I didn't understand math. Lol.
 

BeardOfKnowledge

The Most Consistent Motherfucker You Know
Jul 22, 2015
60,626
56,161
It turns out when you have ballots delivered to people's homes, they're more likely to vote. Shocking.

This isn't rocket appliances folks, it's the same thing that fucked Bernie.
 

Rambo John J

Baker Team
First 100
Jan 17, 2015
75,191
74,331
Graph makes it look like Trump must have been cheating too, lol.
Ya I think that is what made me look at the scale and actual math

I hear ya on mail in but without seeing how many mail in votes weren't allowed compared to 2020 I can't really make a judgment on that.

Oregon hasn't had a Red governor since mail in votes in the late 90s, most people don't know who they are voting for and just vote whoever they are told to vote for by their neighbors/family. We are like 65% blue here overall, rural is very red.

I think there was fuckery, but I can't say how many votes. Fuckery is very normal in the USA.
 

BeardOfKnowledge

The Most Consistent Motherfucker You Know
Jul 22, 2015
60,626
56,161
Ya I think that is what made me look at the scale and actual math

I hear ya on mail in but without seeing how many mail in votes weren't allowed compared to 2020 I can't really make a judgment on that.

Oregon hasn't had a Red governor since mail in votes in the late 90s, most people don't know who they are voting for and just vote whoever they are told to vote for by their neighbors/family. We are like 65% blue here overall, rural is very red.

I think there was fuckery, but I can't say how many votes. Fuckery is very normal in the USA.
There was 100% fuckery. I think people overstate the vote volume. I'm also used to JT's government here trying to convince everyone that online voting would be "great for the country" because they did a bunch of research and found out that if they can get online voting, they'll never lose another election. Long story short, low information voters usually don't bother to go out.
 

Rambo John J

Baker Team
First 100
Jan 17, 2015
75,191
74,331
There was 100% fuckery. I think people overstate the vote volume. I'm also used to JT's government here trying to convince everyone that online voting would be "great for the country" because they did a bunch of research and found out that if they can get online voting, they'll never lose another election. Long story short, low information voters usually don't bother to go out.
Vote participation would probably be like 25%down from current 60% if people had to show up in person. The double mask(we have tons) people wouldn't even show up. Would love to see those turnout numbers.