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kvr28

Ghost of KVR
Nov 22, 2015
7,067
9,826
If your state is pushing it. We still haven't decided our congressional district yet. It's a shitshow.

Depending on the votes for the write ins, neither one may end up with a majority vote, which will keep extending this.


AUGUSTA, Maine — Secretary of State Shenna Bellows and her team are still working to complete ranked choice vote tabulations to finalize election results for Maine's second Congressional District.
Incumbent Democratic candidate Jared Golden, Republican candidate Austin Theriault, and declared write-in candidate Diana Merenda competed to represent Maine in the U.S. House of Representatives.

On Wednesday, votes from Aroostook, Washington, and Oxford Counties were verified, leaving votes in eight more counties for Bellows and her team to examine.

"Both campaigns were able to look at the totals based on ballots scanned here at 45 Commerce Dr. and verify that what we have here matches totals from election night," Bellows said.

Bellows predicts that her staff will complete tabulations by the end of workday Thursday or by Friday.
She said although Golden led the race on election night with 2,000 more votes than Theriault, washing out Merenda who only received 400 or more votes, neither Golden nor Theriault secured more than 50 percent of the total votes in the election.

She explained that some 12,000 voters chose undeclared write-in candidates as their first rank choice, causing a need to implement ranked choice vote tabulations.

Lawyers from both Golden's and Theriault's campaigns stuck around during tabulations, as they did Tuesday.

Lawyers from both campaigns asked to see ballots stored in boxes from the towns of Ripley and Mercer.
With this year's election being Maine's highest voter turnout in history, Bellows said poll workers in both towns ran out of secured metal ballot boxes used to store ballots, forcing them to place referendum ballots in sealed cardboard boxes instead.

In Kennebec County, there were two ballots that were counted on election night, but stored in the wrong location. Those two ballots were not transported to the tabulation site, but Bellows and her team were able to locate the ballots after contacting the warden who oversaw the polling location.

Golden's senior advisor Bobby Reynolds said that when he looks at preliminary results showing that Golden secured a little more than 196,000 votes and Theriault fell behind with just over 193,000 votes, he believes Golden won the election outright.

"We did disagree, or we had a different opinion than the secretary of state did on whether the congressman received more than 50 percent of the vote," Reynolds said. "But having said that, we respect the secretary of state's position right now, and we're not intervening to stop anything."

Bellows said that Reynolds is forgetting about the 12,000 other voters who wrote in an undeclared candidate as their first rank choice.

"We understand that people have taken some time to wrap their heads around those rules," she said. "We have to follow the law as it is written."

Reynolds said regardless, they respect the process, and they believe Theriault's campaign has every right to gain as much clarity as needed. He also explained that things have been cordial between both campaigns.

"We haven't seen anything thus far that would indicate that there's going to be any overturning of this race, but the Therriault campaign has every right to exhaust their options," Reynolds said. "That's what makes America great."

Theriault's campaign manager Shawn Roderick said he appreciates Bellows' office's diligence.

"The process is very open," Roderick said. "If we have any questions at all, they're immediately willing to show us and answer our questions. So, we feel confident in how the process is going."

In response to hearing that Golden's campaign representatives disagreeing with how the election was interpreted, Roderick said they stand by Bellows, agreeing that tabulating ranked choice votes was necessary.
"You don't have to like the law, but it's the law and we're looking forward to seeing all votes counted," Roderick said.


 

Uncle Tom Doug

Official TMMAC Racist
Jun 24, 2022
849
1,269
I'd never live in a state filled with pinkocommiefags, so I have nothing to worry about. I don't understand why anyone with any sense lives in the northeast. Other than the lack of diversity.
 

MountainMedic

Rock Kicker
Sep 28, 2017
2,512
5,184
If your state is pushing it. We still haven't decided our congressional district yet. It's a shitshow.

Depending on the votes for the write ins, neither one may end up with a majority vote, which will keep extending this.


AUGUSTA, Maine — Secretary of State Shenna Bellows and her team are still working to complete ranked choice vote tabulations to finalize election results for Maine's second Congressional District.
Incumbent Democratic candidate Jared Golden, Republican candidate Austin Theriault, and declared write-in candidate Diana Merenda competed to represent Maine in the U.S. House of Representatives.

On Wednesday, votes from Aroostook, Washington, and Oxford Counties were verified, leaving votes in eight more counties for Bellows and her team to examine.

"Both campaigns were able to look at the totals based on ballots scanned here at 45 Commerce Dr. and verify that what we have here matches totals from election night," Bellows said.

Bellows predicts that her staff will complete tabulations by the end of workday Thursday or by Friday.
She said although Golden led the race on election night with 2,000 more votes than Theriault, washing out Merenda who only received 400 or more votes, neither Golden nor Theriault secured more than 50 percent of the total votes in the election.

She explained that some 12,000 voters chose undeclared write-in candidates as their first rank choice, causing a need to implement ranked choice vote tabulations.

Lawyers from both Golden's and Theriault's campaigns stuck around during tabulations, as they did Tuesday.

Lawyers from both campaigns asked to see ballots stored in boxes from the towns of Ripley and Mercer.
With this year's election being Maine's highest voter turnout in history, Bellows said poll workers in both towns ran out of secured metal ballot boxes used to store ballots, forcing them to place referendum ballots in sealed cardboard boxes instead.

In Kennebec County, there were two ballots that were counted on election night, but stored in the wrong location. Those two ballots were not transported to the tabulation site, but Bellows and her team were able to locate the ballots after contacting the warden who oversaw the polling location.

Golden's senior advisor Bobby Reynolds said that when he looks at preliminary results showing that Golden secured a little more than 196,000 votes and Theriault fell behind with just over 193,000 votes, he believes Golden won the election outright.

"We did disagree, or we had a different opinion than the secretary of state did on whether the congressman received more than 50 percent of the vote," Reynolds said. "But having said that, we respect the secretary of state's position right now, and we're not intervening to stop anything."

Bellows said that Reynolds is forgetting about the 12,000 other voters who wrote in an undeclared candidate as their first rank choice.

"We understand that people have taken some time to wrap their heads around those rules," she said. "We have to follow the law as it is written."

Reynolds said regardless, they respect the process, and they believe Theriault's campaign has every right to gain as much clarity as needed. He also explained that things have been cordial between both campaigns.

"We haven't seen anything thus far that would indicate that there's going to be any overturning of this race, but the Therriault campaign has every right to exhaust their options," Reynolds said. "That's what makes America great."

Theriault's campaign manager Shawn Roderick said he appreciates Bellows' office's diligence.

"The process is very open," Roderick said. "If we have any questions at all, they're immediately willing to show us and answer our questions. So, we feel confident in how the process is going."

In response to hearing that Golden's campaign representatives disagreeing with how the election was interpreted, Roderick said they stand by Bellows, agreeing that tabulating ranked choice votes was necessary.
"You don't have to like the law, but it's the law and we're looking forward to seeing all votes counted," Roderick said.


We dodged a bullet
CI-126 failed to pass by a margin of about 20,000 votes, 48% to 52%. while votes against CI-127 garnered 61% of the vote, to 38% in favor of the measure.
 

MountainMedic

Rock Kicker
Sep 28, 2017
2,512
5,184
The way they were written on the ballot was intentionally confusing.
The one that almost passed read as "certain positions must win by a majority" which sounds good, but was in tandem with the ranked choice to ensure vote off after vote off.
Total bullshit and pissed me off once I figured out what it really was about.
 

Mutant

Citizen of the Infernal Empire
Oct 20, 2015
959
1,491
The way they were written on the ballot was intentionally confusing.
The one that almost passed read as "certain positions must win by a majority" which sounds good, but was in tandem with the ranked choice to ensure vote off after vote off.
Total bullshit and pissed me off once I figured out what it really was about.
They did that shit here they write the proposition a way towards confuse you into voting in rank choice voting. Fuck that commie shit!
 

MountainMedic

Rock Kicker
Sep 28, 2017
2,512
5,184
They did that shit here they write the proposition a way towards confuse you into voting in rank choice voting. Fuck that commie shit!
Yeah, it's an easy sell the way they frame it. There really wasn't a ton of "NO on this shit" ads either but lots of pro, they dumped a ton of money into it and most people were fired up about a 3rd state constitutional amendment to expand abortion rights. Lots of ad money on both sides of that.

If this gets put up again next time I'm probably going to get involved. Most people don't get the full story, just the pitch. I could see it slipping through..


 

kvr28

Ghost of KVR
Nov 22, 2015
7,067
9,826
The way they were written on the ballot was intentionally confusing.
The one that almost passed read as "certain positions must win by a majority" which sounds good, but was in tandem with the ranked choice to ensure vote off after vote off.
Total bullshit and pissed me off once I figured out what it really was about.
This is exactly the way they do it and passed it here
 

MountainMedic

Rock Kicker
Sep 28, 2017
2,512
5,184
This is exactly the way they do it and passed it here
The cluster you're currently dealing with should be the rallying cry to repeal that shit, but once they get their claws in its hard.
Plus it's a giant waste of taxpayers and donor money that could be used for better shit.
 

NiteProwleR

Free Hole Lay Row
Nov 17, 2023
2,703
4,175
The way they were written on the ballot was intentionally confusing.
The one that almost passed read as "certain positions must win by a majority" which sounds good, but was in tandem with the ranked choice to ensure vote off after vote off.
Total bullshit and pissed me off once I figured out what it really was about.
I'm glad I'm one of those dummies that skips the vote if I don't understand the wording. I could swear that wording sounds familiar. I think I almost voted in favor but didn't trust the jargon. What should've been a simple sentence turned into a paragraph of polispeak. I just voted R straight down the pipe and skipped all the other bs.