General Ann Selzer quits polling

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kvr28

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Lol, she was labelled the gold standard in polling when she said Kamala was leading by 4 points in Iowa by the left, until Trump smoked her by almost 14 points.

Bye Felicia.


Public opinion polling has been my life’s work. I collected my first research data as a freshman in college, if you don’t count a neighborhood poll I did at age 5. I’ve always been fascinated with what a person could learn from a scientific sample of a meaningful universe.

Beyond election polls, my favorite projects were helping clients learn something they did not know to help them evaluate options for their companies, institutions or causes. That work may well continue, but I knew a few years ago that the election polling part of my career was headed to a close.

Over a year ago I advised the Register I would not renew when my 2024 contract expired with the latest election poll as I transition to other ventures and opportunities.

Would I have liked to make this announcement after a final poll aligned with Election Day results? Of course. It’s ironic that it’s just the opposite. I am proud of the work I’ve done for the Register, for the Detroit Free Press, for the Indianapolis Star, for Bloomberg News and for other public and private organizations interested in elections. They were great clients and were happy with my work. 


There were shocking polls for each, to be sure. In the end, my findings looked good. Over 30 years of polling led to an A+ rating in Nate Silver’s analysis of pollsters’ track records of accuracy. I earned that rating in Silver’s first list, and my grade never dropped. Maybe that history of accuracy made the outlier position too comfortable.

Polling is a science of estimation, and science has a way of periodically humbling the scientist. So, I’m humbled, yet always willing to learn from unexpected findings.

My work will continue for current clients and for clients yet to come. In addition, I’m thinking about how to put other talents to work for the benefit of new clients. 

My integrity means a lot to me. To those who have questioned it, there are likely no words to dissuade. For those who know me best, I appreciate the supportive notes and calls reminding me that what drew me to them as friends, colleagues and clients was commitment to truth and accuracy — both in my professional and my personal relationships.

That is part of my DNA, and I intend to protect and preserve that heart of me.


Pollster Ann Selzer ending election polling, moving 'to other ventures and opportunities'
 

CuddleBug

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The other one that needs to hang it up is that professor that supposedly had such a good record on presidential predictions. He was around for months before the election with his prediction that Harris would win without a doubt. When he stated that the "purported" assassination attempt on Trump would have no effect on the election I knew he was too emotionally invested and biased to be making a rational analysis.
 

luchalibre

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The other one that needs to hang it up is that professor that supposedly had such a good record on presidential predictions. He was around for months before the election with his prediction that Harris would win without a doubt. When he stated that the "purported" assassination attempt on Trump would have no effect on the election I knew he was too emotionally invested and biased to be making a rational analysis.
His ranking system seemed solid, it's how he scored Trump vs Harris that was flawed. She's charismatic and he's not? Fuck outta here
 

kvr28

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The other one that needs to hang it up is that professor that supposedly had such a good record on presidential predictions. He was around for months before the election with his prediction that Harris would win without a doubt. When he stated that the "purported" assassination attempt on Trump would have no effect on the election I knew he was too emotionally invested and biased to be making a rational analysis.
He was the one the left was touting, Allan Lichtman, Predicted all since 1984 except for bush/gore, until 2024.

 

Tom_Cody

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He was the one the left was touting, Allan Lichtman, Predicted all since 1984 except for bush/gore, until 2024.

40 years (84-24) seems impressive until you stop to think about it and realize at the end of the day he went 4/5.
 

segfault

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Ann might want to wait until the check clears before getting ahead of herself. The DNC has been laying people off left and right this week. I'm guessing $20 million in the hole is just the tip of the iceberg.
 

Thuglife13

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The other one that needs to hang it up is that professor that supposedly had such a good record on presidential predictions. He was around for months before the election with his prediction that Harris would win without a doubt. When he stated that the "purported" assassination attempt on Trump would have no effect on the election I knew he was too emotionally invested and biased to be making a rational analysis.
Did you see this I posted in a different thread? It's him on election night melting down along with his retard son...


View: https://youtube.com/watch?v=sT5Aqj2dUKA&t=20760s

Also this is him going full-retard about why he was wrong. Fuck that guy along with the Iowa pollster cunt...


View: https://twitter.com/NewsNation/status/1856332352655388826
 

CuddleBug

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Chunk blasphemed against His Holiness Alan Lichtman and his Thirteen Keys from the Mount! Man, it really is a cult.
The guy spent his life as a professor, which means he gets to say anything he wants as if it is unquestionable truth and everyone around him has to agree. Add to that he was being touted for a long time as some great prognosticator. It all came crashing down and his use of the word blaspheme really was a good indication of the reality that is in his head.
 

segfault

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The guy spent his life as a professor, which means he gets to say anything he wants as if it is unquestionable truth and everyone around him has to agree. Add to that he was being touted for a long time as some great prognosticator. It all came crashing down and his use of the word blaspheme really was a good indication of the reality that is in his head.
Yep, one of the better Freudian slips I've heard in a while.
 

White347lx

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I don’t agree with much Chunk has to say but I do feel a little sorry for him. He’s been screaming from the rooftop for years that dems are going way too far left.
 

segfault

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