General Russia contemplating a nuclear strike over U.S. international actions
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The West's reckless actions could raise the question of Moscow using nuclear weapons, said Sergei Ryabkov.
NATO's intention to absorb Kyiv has "virtually blocked" the path to a long-term settlement of the Ukrainian conflict, the deputy foreign minister noted.
Ryabkov stressed that US actions in the area of international security could lead to grave, if not catastrophic, consequences.
NATO's intention to absorb Kyiv has "virtually blocked" the path to a long-term settlement of the Ukrainian conflict, the deputy foreign minister noted.
Ryabkov stressed that US actions in the area of international security could lead to grave, if not catastrophic, consequences.
I don't get this point of view.
NATO pledged it would NEVER expand 1" east", for an agreement to disband the USSR & end the cold war, and create peace.
All humanity agreed to this, happily.
NATO has STEAMROLLED east, "invading" Russia's neighbors and ran coups ever. Since.
They bombed the shit out of eastern bloc in the Bosnia, Kosovo Serbia-Herzogovinan war, and have been running perpetual war & atrocities for 35 years since, pulling out of every missile treaty, arms treaty, range treaty, and every agreement.
They have unelected actors coup'd in place in UKR, have STOLEN UKR taxpayer dollars, and trafficked its women while running 30+ biolabs.
And the Biden Administrations first attempted former eastern blocaction after screaming "RUSSIA!" for over a decade while they invaded no one, was to assassinate the Belarusian President!
What planet do people live on that screams "Russia's invading their neighbors!!!", while discounting the last 35 years of NATO agression, which INCLUDED denying Russia's application into NATO ??!!@
Countries are asking to join NATO. After Russia invaded Ukraine then Finland and Sweden joined NATO. Russia is the reason these countries want to be a part of the NATO coalition. If Russia would quit invading its neighbors there would be no need for NATO.
Myth:
NATO promised Russia it would not enlarge after the Cold War
FACT
The myth that there was a promise by Western leaders not to allow new members to join has been circulating for many years, and is actively used in disinformation campaigns by the Kremlin since the start of the Russian war against Ukraine.
While records show that in the initial stages of discussions about German reunification, US Secretary of State James Baker and his West German counterpart, Hans-Dietrich Genscher, floated such an idea with each other and with Soviet leaders in 1990, but diplomatic negotiations quickly moved on and the idea was dropped.
NATO’s founding treaty – signed in 1949 by the 12 original members and by every country that has joined since – includes a clear provision that opens NATO’s door to “any other European state in a position to further the principles of this Treaty and to contribute to the security of the North Atlantic area.” This has never changed. No treaty signed by NATO Allies and Russia ever included provisions that NATO cannot take on new members. Decisions on NATO membership are taken by consensus among all Allies.
Describing NATO’s open door policy as “expansion” is already part of the myth. NATO did not seek out new members or aim to “expand eastward.” NATO respects every nation’s right to choose its own path. NATO membership is a decision first for those countries that wish to join. It is then for NATO Allies to consider the application.
Myth:
NATO promised Russia it would not enlarge after the Cold War
FACT
The myth that there was a promise by Western leaders not to allow new members to join has been circulating for many years, and is actively used in disinformation campaigns by the Kremlin since the start of the Russian war against Ukraine.
While records show that in the initial stages of discussions about German reunification, US Secretary of State James Baker and his West German counterpart, Hans-Dietrich Genscher, floated such an idea with each other and with Soviet leaders in 1990, but diplomatic negotiations quickly moved on and the idea was dropped.
NATO’s founding treaty – signed in 1949 by the 12 original members and by every country that has joined since – includes a clear provision that opens NATO’s door to “any other European state in a position to further the principles of this Treaty and to contribute to the security of the North Atlantic area.” This has never changed. No treaty signed by NATO Allies and Russia ever included provisions that NATO cannot take on new members. Decisions on NATO membership are taken by consensus among all Allies.
Describing NATO’s open door policy as “expansion” is already part of the myth. NATO did not seek out new members or aim to “expand eastward.” NATO respects every nation’s right to choose its own path. NATO membership is a decision first for those countries that wish to join. It is then for NATO Allies to consider the application.
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Zoellick vividly recalls the White House meeting he attended nearly three decades ago in which Bush asked Gorbachev if he agreed with the Conference on Security and Cooperation in Europe principle that nations are free to ally with others as they see fit. When Gorbachev said yes, he says, the Soviet leader’s “own colleagues at the table visibly separated themselves.”
Sensing the import of the possible breakthrough, he says a colleague at the meeting, Robert Blackwill, sent him a note checking what they had heard and asking if they should ask Bush to repeat the question. “Gorbachev agreed again,” Zoellick recalls, to the principle that Germany could choose to enter NATO.
Putin does not see Ukraine as an independent and sovereign state … He believes that they are all Russians, living in a greater Russia.
“The reality was that, in 1989-90, most people, and certainly the Soviets, weren’t focusing on whether the Eastern European countries would become part of NATO,” Zoellick says. Knowing Soviet and Russian diplomacy, he believes Moscow would have demanded assurances in writing if it believed the U.S. had made such a promise. And even in 1996, when President Bill Clinton welcomed former Warsaw Pact nations to join NATO, he says that, “[o]ne of the German diplomats involved told me that as they discussed the enlargement with the Russians, no Russian raised the argument that there had been a promise not to enlarge.”
hls.harvard.edu
Sensing the import of the possible breakthrough, he says a colleague at the meeting, Robert Blackwill, sent him a note checking what they had heard and asking if they should ask Bush to repeat the question. “Gorbachev agreed again,” Zoellick recalls, to the principle that Germany could choose to enter NATO.
Putin does not see Ukraine as an independent and sovereign state … He believes that they are all Russians, living in a greater Russia.
“The reality was that, in 1989-90, most people, and certainly the Soviets, weren’t focusing on whether the Eastern European countries would become part of NATO,” Zoellick says. Knowing Soviet and Russian diplomacy, he believes Moscow would have demanded assurances in writing if it believed the U.S. had made such a promise. And even in 1996, when President Bill Clinton welcomed former Warsaw Pact nations to join NATO, he says that, “[o]ne of the German diplomats involved told me that as they discussed the enlargement with the Russians, no Russian raised the argument that there had been a promise not to enlarge.”
‘There was no promise not to enlarge NATO’ - Harvard Law School
Robert Zoellick, the U.S. diplomat who helped negotiate the end of the Cold War, says Vladimir Putin’s claims about Ukraine are part of a disinformation campaign.
Even Gorbachev says that NATO never promised not to expand. Hopefully this can finally shut down the Russian propaganda about NATO.
www.brookings.edu
Did NATO Promise Not to Enlarge? Gorbachev Says "No"
Russian President Vladimir Putin has made it well known his antipathy towards NATO, claiming the Alliance took advantage of Russian weakness after the collapse of the Soviet Union in violation of promises allegedly made to Moscow by Western leaders. Steven Pifer argues that no such promises were...
Do you have any idea who runs the Brookings Institute?Even Gorbachev says that NATO never promised not to expand. Hopefully this can finally shut down the Russian propaganda about NATO.
Did NATO Promise Not to Enlarge? Gorbachev Says "No"
Russian President Vladimir Putin has made it well known his antipathy towards NATO, claiming the Alliance took advantage of Russian weakness after the collapse of the Soviet Union in violation of promises allegedly made to Moscow by Western leaders. Steven Pifer argues that no such promises were...
To the claims themselves, it is not "Russian Propaganda".
"Russian Propaganda" does not even have the power to be heard over U.S. airwaves.
To quote "even Gorbachev" _____ is like saying "even Trump's AG Bill Barr _____".
Yeltsin is the reason for Gorbachev, and Putin is the reason for Yeltsin.
The NATO expansion was not in treaty because it was in Gorbachev's interest to JOIN, and Yeltsin tried!
So, why exactly does NATO exist, if not to take over the earth?
Who do they have to fight if Bill Clinton says "yes" to the Russian applucation?
What country overpowers the U.S. backdoor NATO "member state acceptance" applications?
It's not Russian propaganda, it's retired military colonals that cite NATO expansion.
And what of perpetual war at the hands of mass murders rolling over the planet militarily?
What of the arms treaties that've been "dismissed" by NATO 100 times?
What of telling "country b" to not use chemical weapons, biological weapons, cluster munitions, particular mines, thermite, etc. Etc. Etc.
What of assassinating Presidents, running 54 coups, installing "freindly leaders" over duly ELECTED ones?
These "nations" that apply, are not nations of people, they're in many cases, strongarmed INSTALLED crooked pedophiles and maniacs, specifically put there, by the U.S./Israeli/Rothschild bank TO apply.
For god's sake look at South America over the last 40 years.
Every "election" is a coup, and every assassinated mayor or governor was anti-globslost/Zionist and/or populist.
What other neighbors has Russia invaded?
This is a video, not an funded institution.
He was there. An eyewitness.
Is this propaganda?
View: https://www.bitchute.com/video/jFhhvDrhG1Qv
Fair. USA has invaded way more countries than Russia has post WW2. Probably more than any other single country.
So I hope you share that opinion for them as well.
Which countries are the USA occupying and anexxing for themselves?
Yes, no.
If that is the measuring stick, than the Roman Empire didn't exist, the Ottoman empire didn't exist....no empire existed.
Now we are getting it historical/territorial definitions, which is fine.
But to save A LOT of time, it would be better to use the long-held/used definition.
Military outposts.
USA just finished a 20 year occupation of Afghanistan lol. Wtf are you even saying? PS it's not the only country they've occupied lately.
USA has occupied a shit load of countries for many many years.
Multiple occupations are currently happening globally.
Look what's happening right now, you have turkey and Israel scooping up parts of Syria. Turkey obviously been occupying northern Cyprus for decades. China's Communist Party was illegally occupying china for 30 years before it was recognized internationally as actual governing party, ROC had a government in exile.
Etc, etc. Dozens and dozens of occupations in last half century including multiples at the hands of the USA.
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I was surprised at your stance about NATO. I had never seen that thinking in anyone that served before. To me NATO is a useful alliance.
Only where other countries allow them. Several years back the Philippines wanted the US bases gone so the US pulled out.
A military outpost is not the same as taking over other countries as Russia does. That's how they got to be the largest country in the world.
I don't take it personal, Spark. I replied to you because I have seen you posting before. I know you weren't a troll.Btw@Mad Dog , I apologize for coming at you hard.
There's a lot of posters I love here, & life circumstances & topic importance culminate in passionate responses.
Please don't take these responses personal!
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Having a presence/base in a country is not an occupation. But to clarify, the difference between what the US does and what Russia does is pretty different. Having a base in a country is not annexing and keeping another country for themselves like Russia does. How do you think Russia grew into the largest country in the world?
The secret is to look at what Russia does and not listen to what they say. They will constantly lie with the ultimate goal being to take more land for themselves.
And USA by contrast got to the size it did by what exactly? LOL.
The USA did not wheel in massive amounts of artillery and blow up the homes and people that were already living there. The USA was not a settled country with an active government at the time. Migrants came here and settled the land and set up a government.
If you can't see these differences let me know.