Nissan, Honda announce plans to merge, creating world’s No. 3 automaker
Japanese automakers Honda and Nissan have announced plans to join forces, forming world’s third-largest automaker by sales.
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General Honda and Nissan merger?
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I heard Nissan were in dire trouble earlier this year, a merger is better than the death of the company I suppose.
I wonder if Honda will keep them as a separate brand, or just absorb them entirely?
I wonder if Honda will keep them as a separate brand, or just absorb them entirely?
I'm curious what this means for Infiniti and Acura as well
They were initially saying it was to try & work together to get better marketshare in the Chinese EV market. I doubt that very much - it's about Nissan trying to not go under (they were <1.5 years away from closing their doors or being bought out by some tech conglomerate). IMO, Honda found a way to get them for cheap as they're very diligent about where they spend their $$$ (which is why they've made some of the motorsport decisions they have in recent years).
Chinese EVs have apparently skyrocketed in quality in recent years, and they're likely only going to get better. This is not surprising since China copies everything. They've historically *not* been good at copying mechanical things (at least automotive), but they *are* good with tech. And EVs are way more tech-based than they are mechanical-based now.
Part of me hopes the merger (which isn't happening until 2026) means we can get better performance cars (Civics are too big & would be better if AWD or RWD, the NSX was too expensive, the R35 ended up being insanely expensive, the 370 & Z were never as good as they should have been), but we'll see.
Also - Mitsubishi is apparently gonna be part of the deal, but just how remains to be seen. I've seen things saying that'll be a separate merger, but I have no idea.
Renault likely has to be part of the deal in some fashion, as they (from what I understand) have like 30-35% ownership in Nissan.
Chinese EVs have apparently skyrocketed in quality in recent years, and they're likely only going to get better. This is not surprising since China copies everything. They've historically *not* been good at copying mechanical things (at least automotive), but they *are* good with tech. And EVs are way more tech-based than they are mechanical-based now.
Part of me hopes the merger (which isn't happening until 2026) means we can get better performance cars (Civics are too big & would be better if AWD or RWD, the NSX was too expensive, the R35 ended up being insanely expensive, the 370 & Z were never as good as they should have been), but we'll see.
Also - Mitsubishi is apparently gonna be part of the deal, but just how remains to be seen. I've seen things saying that'll be a separate merger, but I have no idea.
Renault likely has to be part of the deal in some fashion, as they (from what I understand) have like 30-35% ownership in Nissan.
I dunno about Infinity, but IMO, Acura will be at best an afterthought, if not shuttered completely.
I don't think they've done great numbers in a while, and the hyped-up Integra reboot basically shit the bed from being too big, not different enough from the Civic (especially now that Type Rs are available in the US), and too expensive (I think the Type S was more than the Type R, and Rs go for mid $40k now, which is nuts).
Besides, pretty much anything that's Acura is already just a Honda outside of the US, so I doubt they'd lose (or care) much if they just closed it.
I could be wrong, though.
In my opinion, the RDX and MDX are beautiful
Last i heard all infiniti dealerships were closing and the brand would move onto Nissan lots.
I'm surprised Nissan is still a thing, we looked at a frontier in 2018 and it was a piece of shit, all hard plastic interior, seats were uncomfortable as hell, the engine sounded like it was 3 quarts low on oil and it only had 10 miles on it. We went with a Canyon instead.
Everyone would be driving Chinese EVs if it wasn't for tariffs.
They build them for like half the cost any competitor is able to.