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I've always thought explanations of giants or aliens betrayed a lack of imagination/problem-solving of the people pushing those theories. Just because a modern midwit can't fathom how to accomplish something doesn't mean the ancients were similarly hamstrung. They were biologically identical to us and weren't idiots. They may not have had our technology, but they did have our ability to solve tough problems with the tools they did have.
 
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segfault said:
I've always thought explanations of giants or aliens betrayed a lack of imagination/problem-solving of the people pushing those theories. Just because a modern midwit can't fathom how to accomplish something doesn't mean the ancients were similarly hamstrung. They were biologically identical to us and weren't idiots. They may not have had our technology, but they did have our ability to solve tough problems with the tools they did have.
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I agree. I think the difference between man of today and that of yesteryears is that men of today have any number of infinite distractions. Men of those times only had their task at hand to think about and nothing else. No football games, nothing really to bitch about or discuss. No time killers, no TV/movies and politics were in their infancy. Putting that much brain power all together is crazy to think about. Thousands of men who's only job was think about completing a single task.
 
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Drex said:
If like to see them hoist it up 20ft
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If they figured out how to move a 25 ton stone by hand, I doubt that would be much of a challenge for them. It's an absolutely a huge problem for you and me. We couldn't ever do it. You're talking about the elite of the elite in terms of brain power. It's like saying that because I made every shot on my hoop at home, I deserve to be in the NBA. There are levels for every "game" and the people at the bottom rung can never understand that top rung no matter the topics.
 
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Pretty cool - but those stones aren't 25 ton.
 
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For a long time, people couldn't figure out how the Easter Islanders were able to move the statues from the quarries to their final destinations. The hint was in the oral history of the Rapa Nuians: the statues walked. That was dismissed as primitive stories. And then:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvvES47OdmY


There's still on-going debate on how the granite blocks of the pyramids could be moved into place. They discovered recently that a channel of the Nile ran right up to the Giza plateau. That would answer how the blocks were moved from the quarries hundreds of miles away. But then there's these unexplained shafts cut into the bedrock going right up to the pyramids in a line, with hints that there's a tunnel system beneath them:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRpZJdn5tCs

My pet theory is that the Egyptians used hydraulic-powered cranes. They'd flood the shafts to lift the counterweights and then drain them to raise and move the stones.

Something more recent, but a cool demonstration of what comparatively "primitive" people to us were able to accomplish with hydraulics:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37JtQl1gUtA


Dave's right, it's amazing what people can accomplish when they're put to focus on a single-minded goal.
 
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Dave_Accu said:
If they figured out how to move a 25 ton stone by hand, I doubt that would be much of a challenge for them. It's an absolutely a huge problem for you and me. We couldn't ever do it. You're talking about the elite of the elite in terms of brain power. It's like saying that because I made every shot on my hoop at home, I deserve to be in the NBA. There are levels for every "game" and the people at the bottom rung can never understand that top rung no matter the topics.
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I've never put any stock Into the ancient alien theories and its cool that they were move these stones around on rounded corners but I don't think it helps to explain much when it comes to oblong obelisks and oblong beams that are a on the ceilings of many of the chambers
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Rambo John J

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I don't think that video explains the stonework and construction of many ancient sites at all.

Interesting video but that is about it.
 
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segfault said:
For a long time, people couldn't figure out how the Easter Islanders were able to move the statues from the quarries to their final destinations. The hint was in the oral history of the Rapa Nuians: the statues walked. That was dismissed as primitive stories. And then:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvvES47OdmY


There's still on-going debate on how the granite blocks of the pyramids could be moved into place. They discovered recently that a channel of the Nile ran right up to the Giza plateau. That would answer how the blocks were moved from the quarries hundreds of miles away. But then there's these unexplained shafts cut into the bedrock going right up to the pyramids in a line, with hints that there's a tunnel system beneath them:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRpZJdn5tCs

My pet theory is that the Egyptians used hydraulic-powered cranes. They'd flood the shafts to lift the counterweights and then drain them to raise and move the stones.

Something more recent, but a cool demonstration of what comparatively "primitive" people to us were able to accomplish with hydraulics:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37JtQl1gUtA


Dave's right, it's amazing what people can accomplish when they're put to focus on a single-minded goal.
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That last one proves my theory they were just tombs, afterall..
 
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The issue with most "technology" discussions in this context is (IMO) the colossal arrogance of so many people today. They think that just because they haven't figured something out, that nobody else could have. Or if ancient cultures hadn't figured out something we deem simplistic, then they could have never figured out something much more complex.

Like, isn't there evidence of cultures that could do things such as fairly complicated mathematics & such, yet never figured out the wheel?

I'm guessing that if people from those times & cultures could be transported into our day, they'd be wondering why we hadn't figured out *insert random think they thought was stupidly simple*, yet.
 
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Wiggy said:
The issue with most "technology" discussions in this context is (IMO) the colossal arrogance of so many people today. They think that just because they haven't figured something out, that nobody else could have. Or if ancient cultures hadn't figured out something we deem simplistic, then they could have never figured out something much more complex.

Like, isn't there evidence of cultures that could do things such as fairly complicated mathematics & such, yet never figured out the wheel?

I'm guessing that if people from those times & cultures could be transported into our day, they'd be wondering why we hadn't figured out *insert random think they thought was stupidly simple*, yet.
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Plus there's no need for modern people to work out how to move huge stones by hand, we have cranes that can d it.

Back then, there would be generations of great minds concentrated on that one task.
 
Rambo John J

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Wiggy said:
The issue with most "technology" discussions in this context is (IMO) the colossal arrogance of so many people today. They think that just because they haven't figured something out, that nobody else could have. Or if ancient cultures hadn't figured out something we deem simplistic, then they could have never figured out something much more complex.

Like, isn't there evidence of cultures that could do things such as fairly complicated mathematics & such, yet never figured out the wheel?

I'm guessing that if people from those times & cultures could be transported into our day, they'd be wondering why we hadn't figured out *insert random think they thought was stupidly simple*, yet.
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The MIT guys above are only on their way to figuring out the wheel and they didn't even carve the stones themselves.
I'm pretty sure they have some equipment moving their created stones into place so they can rock with them and spin, and to help pick them up
 
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NotBanjaxo said:
Plus there's no need for modern people to work out how to move huge stones by hand, we have cranes that can d it.

Back then, there would be generations of great minds concentrated on that one task.
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True, but I think it can be (is?) even more simple than that - meaning the evolution of knowledge, discovery, etc then just happened to take a different course than ours did. Maybe they had something figured out that we have a ton of people trying to do in a similar way to what you described.

We turned left while they turned right (metaphorically speaking). We both ended up in completely different places, but that doesn't mean one is better / smarter than the other.

Or at least, that's just how I look at it.
 
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Rambo John J said:
Vibration, Frequency, and Anti Gravity

What do we really know about what we really know?
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Isn't the speculation that these things (or anti-gravity, anyway) are how the "tic tac" UAP aircraft can do the things they can do...that supposedly shouldn't be possible?
 
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