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This is a great post. Thanks for the info man.These will be very simplistic answers for both, so I can drill down a little more if you like.
But the answer to the first:
If you want to gain strength, you need to do some sort of strength training. (More shocking revelations for this thread, I know - you guys are welcome. lol) It can be pretty much any style you like - barbells, dumbbells, sandbags, kettlebells, bodyweight calisthenics, etc. The tool isn't really as important as how you use it.
By that, I mean you'll generally want a program that focuses on compound, multi-joint movements, is moderate in volume, and progresses you in reps, weight, or both. An ultra simplistic (yet still totally viable) approach would be to do an exercise with a heavy(-ish) weight for say 3 sets x 8 reps. Continue to add reps when you can, as you can, until you can do 3 sets x 10 reps. Add weight, drop back down to sets of 8, and repeat.
As for losing some belly fat, it's about diet. For most people, upping the protein and getting calories in check will do it. I can give some recommendations here, too.
If all else fails (and this will party address@Wild's question, too) just take a Ted Naiman-esque P:E approach. Determine how much you want to weigh in pounds. That's your daily protein intake in grams. At the same time, consume that many grams of "energy", which is carbs + fat combined.
So say you wanted to weigh 175lbs, you'd consume 175g protein and 175g carbs + fats combined daily.
Rinse & repeat.
As for people in fitness making things complicated - that's a topic that could have a lot of facets.
Yes, I think some do to make themselves seem smart and sell shit. They also do because most people are retards and don't wanna hear that all they have to do is simple stuff. Others gets wrapped up in "science" instead of just giving people simple shit that works.
All that said, the *vast* majority of people in the fitness industry are also colossal fuck-heads...so there's that, too. lol
I've seen and even done some of the P90X stuff - very hard workout (especially if you push yourself).
However, it's catastrophic overkill for the *vast* majority of people, and has *way* too much ballistic shock for said majority of people...ESPECIALLY for people that are significantly overweight.
See what I said earlier about not running with added weight. Same goes for endless Jumps & such.
When I'm designing complex training programs, I'll add a lot of "active rest" in the form of Jumping Jacks, Seal Jacks, Skiers (like Jacks, only scissors arms & legs forward & back instead of side to side), shadow boxing, etc. That stuff can be Ok (provided you're on a surface with cushion) as while there is a ballistic element, it's not a huge one. And even then, I've had people tell me it's too much.
P90X & the like use a LOT of Jumping-style movements to elevate the heartrate and that's not a great idea for people that aren't already in good shape. Plus, they don't really push strength like they should.
Not to mention the workouts are simply just fucking involved...very long and what - 6 days a week, I think?
I could give you a complex training program that would run you 30-45 minutes, build legit strength, and get you sucking as much wind as P90X ever thought of.
If you wanted an *extremely* simple approach to build some pretty decent conditioning, do Burpees EMOM (Every Minute on the Minute).
Start with Squat Thrusts and do 5-6 reps EMOM x 5 minutes - whatever you can do that's difficult, but doesn't murderize you. Repeat several days a week.
Build up to 10 reps EMOM x 5 minutes. Then add a Pushup and / or Jump (depending on how the rest of your program looks).
I've got a client that's been working with me for roughly 1.5 years or so now. When we first started, 5-6 Squat Thrusts kicked his ass. Now he doe 10 EMOM x 5 minutes...so he's doing 50 total reps in <5 minutes and it's "easy" for him. In fact, this EMOM + now some Sandbag Shouldering (only added in around Thanksgiving) is actually his "side-workout" he does 3x/week on days between his "actual" training / workouts.
Point being - build up to being able to bang out 50 Squat Thrusts / Burpees in <5 minutes and it not kick your ass, & you're gonna have some pretty decent conditioning & work capacity.
You'll just wanna make sure you have sufficient aerobic capacity, first.
Start with Squat Thrusts and do 5-6 reps EMOM x 5 minutes - whatever you can do that's difficult, but doesn't murderize you. Repeat several days a week.
Build up to 10 reps EMOM x 5 minutes. Then add a Pushup and / or Jump (depending on how the rest of your program looks).
I've got a client that's been working with me for roughly 1.5 years or so now. When we first started, 5-6 Squat Thrusts kicked his ass. Now he doe 10 EMOM x 5 minutes...so he's doing 50 total reps in <5 minutes and it's "easy" for him. In fact, this EMOM + now some Sandbag Shouldering (only added in around Thanksgiving) is actually his "side-workout" he does 3x/week on days between his "actual" training / workouts.
Point being - build up to being able to bang out 50 Squat Thrusts / Burpees in <5 minutes and it not kick your ass, & you're gonna have some pretty decent conditioning & work capacity.
You'll just wanna make sure you have sufficient aerobic capacity, first.
Oh and so that it's said:
If someone did go the Naiman-esque style P:E approach I described (his P;E stuff is great and worth checking out), use whatever type of meal plan you wanted.
Meaning if you wanted to go 5-6 small meals a day, you can (though I think that's a dumb idea). If you did 3 meals a day, that'd be fine. OMAD is fine. etc
How many meals you have & how often / when you eat them is pretty much meaningless in the big picture.
Though I *do* tell people to gravitate toward fewer, bigger meals simply because it's more likely to satiate you. That's the biggest reason the whole 5-6 small meals a day (at least IMO) is stupid.
If someone did go the Naiman-esque style P:E approach I described (his P;E stuff is great and worth checking out), use whatever type of meal plan you wanted.
Meaning if you wanted to go 5-6 small meals a day, you can (though I think that's a dumb idea). If you did 3 meals a day, that'd be fine. OMAD is fine. etc
How many meals you have & how often / when you eat them is pretty much meaningless in the big picture.
Though I *do* tell people to gravitate toward fewer, bigger meals simply because it's more likely to satiate you. That's the biggest reason the whole 5-6 small meals a day (at least IMO) is stupid.
Horton was funny
There was one super hot female helper on the original P90X
There was one super hot female helper on the original P90X
meh...not a huge fan.
You have to already be in pretty good shape / strong in order to push hard enough to trigger any real growth stimulus.
e.g. - Benching 95lbs to failure isn't gonna trigger the same kinda response Benching 250 to failure will...because it's only 95lbs lol
At the same time, most guys simply do NOT have the mental fortitude to go to complete failure and are quitting long before failure...this is especially true when the reps get up over about 6-8.
Show me a guy that says he's hit failure after 8-10 reps on the Squat. Now pull out his dog and put a gun to his head, threatening to shoot his pup unless he does 5 more reps. Know what he's gonna do? 5 more reps. lol
Point being, he wasn't actually going to failure, even though he thought he was. And when you're not going to actual failure, all you're doing is a very small amount of volume that's not even at your max. It's a recipe for not getting very far.
At the same time, the biggest & most well-known "success" cases from HIT were either bullshit or not actually HIT.
Casey Viator and the "Colorado Experiment" was basically just a giant lie (I can detail it if you like).
And while Dorian Yates always preached Mentzer & HIT, his "Blood & Guts" wasn't actually HIT (especially Mentzer's extreme version) at all.
Here’s one. Im doing a new workout from AthleanX and really like it but wanted to get your take. So basically you take a weight that you can do 12 - 15 reps and start with that. So let’s say im doing bench. I out 185 in the bench and go to failure which is about 16 reps. That set doesn’t count. Now, you rest 30 seconds and then do as many reps as possible. Once you get done with that you rest 30 seconds and do another set. You continue to do that until you hit 20 reps. That’s it for that exercise.
So I would do bench at 185- 16 times, rest 30, 8 reps, 30 second rest, probably a total of 14/15 reps, rest 30, and then finish up my 20. I do that for every exercise I do.
The pros for me:
You get one helluva pump. It feels like my muscles are gonna tear apart and I hate to love it. Plus, I’m sore as shit the next day.
You get done pretty quick. I can knock out most of my workouts in 40ish minutes.
It keeps my hear rate up the entire length of the workout, usually above 135 so I know there is some cardiovascular benefit.
Less stress on my joints. When I was lifting heavy (for me) I was getting really bad tendinitis and joint pain. I still have some in my forearm area but it isn’t as bad as it was previously.
Cons:
The biggest con is I think it is zapping my strength but I have no real way of knowing. I just find myself lowering the weight that I did the previous week. I’ve only had to do that once though.
What are your thoughts on the cons that I’m not thinking about? I was gonna do this for 2 months and reasses.
So I would do bench at 185- 16 times, rest 30, 8 reps, 30 second rest, probably a total of 14/15 reps, rest 30, and then finish up my 20. I do that for every exercise I do.
The pros for me:
You get one helluva pump. It feels like my muscles are gonna tear apart and I hate to love it. Plus, I’m sore as shit the next day.
You get done pretty quick. I can knock out most of my workouts in 40ish minutes.
It keeps my hear rate up the entire length of the workout, usually above 135 so I know there is some cardiovascular benefit.
Less stress on my joints. When I was lifting heavy (for me) I was getting really bad tendinitis and joint pain. I still have some in my forearm area but it isn’t as bad as it was previously.
Cons:
The biggest con is I think it is zapping my strength but I have no real way of knowing. I just find myself lowering the weight that I did the previous week. I’ve only had to do that once though.
What are your thoughts on the cons that I’m not thinking about? I was gonna do this for 2 months and reasses.
IYO what are the best exercises for someone who wants to close the No.3 Captains of Crush Gripper?
F @Fookster1982 sorry for the seriously late reply. I honestly just now saw this.
Honestly, I can't answer your question because I don't know what it is you're looking for or want to achieve.
Is what you described a "good workout"? Depends...a good workout for what?
If your goal was to get strong AF, then no - it's not. There are much better ways to do it.
If your goal was to get big / put on size, then possibly - though I'd likely prescribe a few alterations that made it more conducive to hypertrophy.
If your goal was to just have a general state of overall "fitness", then it'd likely be fine.
See what I mean?
I can't really give you pros & cons of a workout program until I know what you're trying to accomplish. Gimme an idea on that and I'll help how I can.
T @Tuc Ouiner I'm pretty sure you answered your own question. Jack off to these hotties enough and you'll have enough grip strength to close COC #3 in your sleep.IYO what are the best exercises for someone who wants to close the No.3 Captains of Crush Gripper?
lol
Seriously though, it depends on where you're at, now. I'll admit I'm not a *huge* grip expert (grip feats of strength can get kinda specific), but can probably point you in the right direction.
I assume you can close a COC #2?
As an aside to anyone else posting questions here:
Please tag me when you ask something here. This thread is doesn't always get a ton of traffic so I might not notice a new question when a lot of time goes by between posts. I don't wanna miss or take that long to respond.
So tag me or DM me to lemme know so I can come back & answer.
Thanks, dudes.
Please tag me when you ask something here. This thread is doesn't always get a ton of traffic so I might not notice a new question when a lot of time goes by between posts. I don't wanna miss or take that long to respond.
So tag me or DM me to lemme know so I can come back & answer.
Thanks, dudes.
First of all, you done hurt my feelings. So, this puts me in an awkward space/place. Honestly, I'd rather be in Chyna. To answer your question-- I cannot close the #2, but can close the#1 for reps. The #3 being my bucket goal. Because of my advanced age(58), and my limited financial status and inacces to a gym(small-town Alaska), I would like a critique of my present program. Finger tip pushups(isometric/tendon ligament strength), crumbling LOTS of newspapers and gripper. All 3 times per week. Don't wanna over tax the connective tissue. I have a manual labor job. Plus, I'm not fancy enough to afford a bidet-- so I gots to wipe my nether regions. Maybe I'm asking your opinion of the efficacy of the Westside Barbell approach: fancy assistance exercises from angles perceived to benefit the main lift utilizing chains, wraps and rubber band etc. OR, the Bulgarian method: minimal assistance work, but train the shit out of the main lift(grippers) very often.
By the way, props to your critique of the Mentzer/Dorian Yates/ HIT/Heavy Duty/Blood and Guts schtick. As much as I respect what Arthur (Nautilus) Jones accomplished-- he was an innovator and made a ton of money. The Colorado experiment was a brilliant marketing facade. And Mentzer's heavy-duty schtick was pretty much the same. A pendulum-like reaction to the Weider BS perpetrated in his glossy publications designed to sell his merch by juiced-up models kowtowing to his BS training methods all the while pretending to be drug-free. BUT... IMO.. Meltzer was robbed at the 80 Olympia. May he RIP.
Well are you sitting or standing? Or maybe on your hands and knees?