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I have kids, one affected by autism from a "vaccine".
I've been in house sub-committees & heard testimony from hundreds of real people with real children destroyed by these injections.
An acquaintance was showcased in the movie "vaxxed".
I've spent hundreds if not thousands of hours around this.
I've been interviewed on radio.
I've studied the "studies" that pointed to the great polio lie.
I have a thread going here.

The problem here is I'm a man with skin in the game, real-life experience & intelligence.
And you're what, a "dink", parroting along libersl talking points?

You have no interest in learning, otherwise you would've come to the same conclusion.
Put your ego & position away, & go study polio first.
Sorry to hear but vaccines fuck some people up and help others. I'm not in either group. Vaccines help some, fuck others. Safe side is not taking any or minimal vaccines. Covid vaccines for example I did take two shots to be able to travel, those weren't worth it. Flu shots I've been taking every year and are probably not worth it since I seem to get sick every year. Major vaccines are probably worth taking. My scientific proof = none but I don't have polio, measles, mumps or rubella.
 

NiteProwleR

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Again. Let’s look at the Tdap, MMR, Pertussis Hib… HepB. All of the vaccines in the current schedule for kids because that is what was being discussed. They are effective and generally safe. Full stop. You disagree, you are ignorant or retarded.

Everything comes with risks and if you read my posts before just reacting you would see I said no vaccine is 100% safe or effective but they are a huge net positive to society. It is estimated that vaccines have saved over 100 million lives in the last 50 years. There are multiple sources stating this but I guess that part is “anti-science.”
This last vaccine was a net negative for humanity though, correct?
 

sparkuri

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Sorry to hear but vaccines fuck some people up and help others. I'm not in either group. Vaccines help some, fuck others. Safe side is not taking any or minimal vaccines. Covid vaccines for example I did take two shots to be able to travel, those weren't worth it. Flu shots I've been taking every year and are probably not worth it since I seem to get sick every year. Major vaccines are probably worth taking. My scientific proof = none but I don't have polio, measles, mumps or rubella.
The reason we are not at 30 billion instead of 9 billion is vaccines, war, abortion....orchestrated death.
Humanity has beaten disease, clearly.
TPTB control population like cattle & don't want to lose it, and it is that simple.
They're manipulative deceivers because survival of the fittest, and plebes are too stupid to recognize what's right in their fucking face.
 

Fookster1982

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Dec 2, 2024
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This last vaccine was a net negative for humanity though, correct?
Depends on who you ask and it wasn’t a traditional vaccine, it was a new(ish) technology that was fast tracked amidst a global pandemic. It shouldn’t be categorized in the same vein as traditionally tried and true vaccines currently in the childhood immunization schedule. Which is what I’ve been talking about.
 

Jamie999

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Depends on who you ask and it wasn’t a traditional vaccine, it was a new(ish) technology that was fast tracked amidst a global pandemic. It shouldn’t be categorized in the same vein as traditionally tried and true vaccines currently in the childhood immunization schedule. Which is what I’ve been talking about.
... Look at the current immunization schedule.. It changes very rapidly.. Look at number of doses over year. It isn't stable like you claim at all.
 

sparkuri

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Still waiting on all of this evidence…
No you're not,at least be honest with yourself.
I already told you to start by looking into the polio vaccine, polio & Jonas Salk.
Did you?
 

Fookster1982

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No you're not,at least be honest with yourself.
I already told you to start by looking into the polio vaccine, polio & Jonas Salk.
Did you?
You are making a claim that vaccines cause autism. I am asking for evidence. Saying, “Google Jonas Salk” is not evidence. When somebody says they have evidence it implies there is some kind of data to disclose. A trial, an observational study, or even a theory that lays out the underlying mechanism of the claim. You have provided nothing…
 

sparkuri

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You are making a claim that vaccines cause autism. I am asking for evidence.
When did you ask me for evidence, and when did I respond I would hand-deliver to you?

Saying, “Google Jonas Salk” is not evidence.
When did I ask you to "Google Jonas Salk"?

When somebody says they have evidence it implies there is some kind of data to disclose. A trial, an observational study, or even a theory that lays out the underlying mechanism of the claim. You have provided nothing…
When did I say "I have evidence"?
When did you ask me to provide evidence?
What agreement was made to do your work for you...did I miss an agreement?
Did we come to terms I'm unaware of?

I'm happy to be your contractor, but I'm going to need a retainer.
As well, my agreement would include work done by the hour.
That would include dozens of white papers (guaranteed boilerplate).
I'd also require a separate contract regarding continued arguing, stipulating proof-of-work on your part.

Or you could argue online for eternity and never learn anything.
 

Fookster1982

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Oh, a Mel Gibson tweet. Gotcha…

Quite a few of those “studies” were commentaries on the link between autism and vaccines, not actually containing any data. At least one of which has a warning due to the sketchy research the author did. Several link thimerosal and autism but thimerosal was removed from vaccines in 2001 and autism rates are still on the incline.
 

sparkuri

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Oh, a Mel Gibson tweet. Gotcha…

Quite a few of those “studies” were commentaries on the link between autism and vaccines, not actually containing any data. At least one of which has a warning due to the sketchy research the author did. Several link thimerosal and autism but thimerosal was removed from vaccines in 2001 and autism rates are still on the incline.
It's getting real hard to not call you retarded.

*thinks it's a Mel Gibson tweet*
"Gotcha"

Tell me you didn't read a single study without telling me you didn't read a single study.

*plugs it into chatGPT"


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sparkuri

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Oh, a Mel Gibson tweet. Gotcha…

Quite a few of those “studies” were commentaries on the link between autism and vaccines, not actually containing any data. At least one of which has a warning due to the sketchy research the author did. Several link thimerosal and autism but thimerosal was removed from vaccines in 2001 and autism rates are still on the incline.

Here's some more shit to ignore, or plug into an AI generator that procures your strawman opinion for you.


 

Fookster1982

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It's getting real hard to not call you retarded.

*thinks it's a Mel Gibson tweet*
"Gotcha"

Tell me you didn't read a single study without telling me you didn't read a single study.

*plugs it into chatGPT"
This is the problem. It was a Mel Gibson tweet. The problem is Mel Gibson is not a scientist and does not know how to digest the information that is presented in a study so he thinks all of those studies showed vaccines cause Autism, which the studies don’t BUT also the studies are very weak. Here is a link to a MULTITUDE of studies that show no link to vaccines and Autism. Pay attention to the type of study and the N - number of test subjects which FAR OUTWEIGHS the number of study participants in your “studies.”


The other issue is that Autism is a neurodevelopmental disorder. Do you know what that is? That means the development of the nervous system (including the brain) does not develop correctly while the autistic child is still a fetus. You don’t develop autism at age 5, you get diagnosed with it because that is when they recognize it, the kid already had autism.

the other problem is there is no consistent hypothesis on why vaccines cause Autism. At first it was thimerosal. However, it was removed in vaccines in 2001 yet Autism rates continue to climb. Then it was the MMR vaccine specifically. However, cohort studies and other longitudinal studies have shown Autism is rising despite the MMR vaccine administration being relatively stable so that can’t be it either. Then, it is the amount of vaccines overload the immune system. Hmmm, that sounds the most legit but doesn’t hold up to scrutiny.

Your first study on how vaccines cause autism is majorly flawed. It talks about preterm infants. Being a premie increases your risk of Autism independently of any other factor.

The problem is that you don’t understand how vaccines work, what Autism truly is, and how the two can be linked. A correlation does not mean anything and it also shows you don’t understand statistical analysis. Organic farming has gone up astronomically in the last 20 years, at the same time Autism diagnoses has gone up astronomically. That’s a positive correlation, how come you are not on here claiming organic farming is the devil? Interesting….
 

Jamie999

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Aug 13, 2024
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This is the problem. It was a Mel Gibson tweet. The problem is Mel Gibson is not a scientist and does not know how to digest the information that is presented in a study so he thinks all of those studies showed vaccines cause Autism, which the studies don’t BUT also the studies are very weak. Here is a link to a MULTITUDE of studies that show no link to vaccines and Autism. Pay attention to the type of study and the N - number of test subjects which FAR OUTWEIGHS the number of study participants in your “studies.”


The other issue is that Autism is a neurodevelopmental disorder. Do you know what that is? That means the development of the nervous system (including the brain) does not develop correctly while the autistic child is still a fetus. You don’t develop autism at age 5, you get diagnosed with it because that is when they recognize it, the kid already had autism.

the other problem is there is no consistent hypothesis on why vaccines cause Autism. At first it was thimerosal. However, it was removed in vaccines in 2001 yet Autism rates continue to climb. Then it was the MMR vaccine specifically. However, cohort studies and other longitudinal studies have shown Autism is rising despite the MMR vaccine administration being relatively stable so that can’t be it either. Then, it is the amount of vaccines overload the immune system. Hmmm, that sounds the most legit but doesn’t hold up to scrutiny.

Your first study on how vaccines cause autism is majorly flawed. It talks about preterm infants. Being a premie increases your risk of Autism independently of any other factor.

The problem is that you don’t understand how vaccines work, what Autism truly is, and how the two can be linked. A correlation does not mean anything and it also shows you don’t understand statistical analysis. Organic farming has gone up astronomically in the last 20 years, at the same time Autism diagnoses has gone up astronomically. That’s a positive correlation, how come you are not on here claiming organic farming is the devil? Interesting….
We don't know the mechanism for autism... And if a child is developmentally normal at age 1 but not at age 5.. You absolutely cannot say with any degree of confidence they got the condition in the womb... Considering you don't know the mechanism and their development path deviated way after.

You just say random shit. Lol serious question are you chatgpting the topic? Because that would make sense why you're rambling.
 

Fookster1982

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Dec 2, 2024
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This is classic, lol.

we know a number of things that increase the risk of autism. (1) Advancing parental age. More and more older adults are having children now than ever before. (2) Maternal obesity, diabetes, among other things. Yes, we are fatter than ever before and diabetes is on the rise as well. (3) Being premature. More and more babies that would have died 30 years ago due to being premature are now living and that increases the risk of autism. Remember, it is a neurodevelopmental disorder, premature babies don’t have enough time to fully develop. (4) Exposure to pollutants during pregnancy.

We have also broadened the diagnostic criteria, raised awareness, and increased access to healthcare. You know that quirky kid that kept to himself in Elementary school? 30 years ago he would have just been considered weird, no, probably turns out he was autistic and nobody knew any better. Depression, anxiety, and ADHD are also in the rise due to these same factors.

You had something terrible happen to a family member. I don’t blame your knee jerk reaction to demonize vaccines. I get it, I really do. It is just your view doesn’t align with reality and you are too ignorant to understand that. Instead you cling to fringe science and debunked myths about vaccines. I’m sorry for what happened to you but that doesn’t change the fact that there is no proven link between vaccines and autism.