General Russia vs. Ukraine

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Mad Dog

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Was it worth it for Russia to invade Ukraine, considering all impacts holistically two and a half years later?

Russia’s inflation is 35%, the national wealth fund is empty, no money to pay soldiers, Soviet weapon stockpiles finished, a million of maimed and killed, and after Ukraine began striking deep into the Russian territory, the people — even in Siberia — are getting worried that the war can come to their own homes.

In 2.5 years, nothing is going to Putin’s plan.
  • Russia failed to take Kyiv and was defeated at Kherson, Mykolaiv, Zaporizhia, Chernihiv, Sumy, and Kharkiv.
  • Russia lost at least 200,000 KIA, 20,000 combat vehicles.
  • At least 9 Russian generals killed.
  • Bottomless Soviet-era stockpiles of weapons exhausted, and now Russia has to beg Iran and North Korea for munitions and missiles.
  • Russia had to announce mobilization — 1st time after WW2.
  • Black Sea fleet decimated, including the flagship ‘Moskva’.
  • Russia expended 10,000 missiles and failed to destroy Ukraine’s power grid, which Putin himself admitted was the goal.
  • Russia’s oil industry is getting severe blow because of Ukrainian strikes.
  • Multiple oil depots and ammo depots obliterated.
  • After nearly 3 years of total war, Russia couldn’t occupy a single regional city (3 regional cities were occupied by Russia in 2014).
  • Ukraine still controls 80% of its territory.
  • NATO added 1,300 km on Russia’s border, after Finland and Sweden joined the alliance. Missiles can now reach Putin’s residence in Valdai (between St. Petersburg and Moscow) even faster.
  • Ukraine acquired advanced western weapons and air defence systems that exceed the Russian analogues.
  • Russia lost lucrative European gas market and is losing oil markets.
  • Nearly a million of young, educated Russians emigrated.
  • Ukraine invaded the Kursk region of Russia 5 months ago, and Russia is unable to squeeze them out — despite bringing North Korean troops for help.
  • Russia lost its bases in Syria and was unable to save the regime of Bashar al-Assad.
  • Russian troops got kicked out of Nagorno-Karabakh by Azerbaijan.
  • Russian economy is in deep trouble due to sanctions and overheating, because of militarization of productive industries.
  • Russia’s base interest rate by central bank is at 21%, home loans are at 30%, consumer loans at 40–50%.
  • Russia’s reliance on China has greatly increased.
  • Ukraine’s international weight skyrocketed.
  • Russia’s military potential will take decades to restore.
  • After nearly 3 years of total war, Russia is still stuck in Donbas.
Things are not going well for Vlad Putin.
Not going well at all.
 

okiebug

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Memes aside foriegn policy is trump's weak spot. I think he knows what he wants to do but can't execute. It's a steep learning curve and he can't put together the right team.
 

Jamie999

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Memes aside foriegn policy is trump's weak spot. I think he knows what he wants to do but can't execute. It's a steep learning curve and he can't put together the right team.
If you aren't trolling... This is the stupidest thing I've ever read.
 

okiebug

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If you aren't trolling... This is the stupidest thing I've ever read.
Do you want me to walk down the list of mistakes he made in his last term and show a correlation to what he is doing now, or are you a John Bolton fan?
 

touch

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View: https://t.me/boris_rozhin/154571

The bodies of Georgian mercenaries recently liquidated in Ukraine were brought to Georgia for burial.
Local authorities are not very upset about this, since in Ukraine the Russian Armed Forces are mainly liquidating Saakashvili's supporters.
 

touch

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How are you doing Mad Dog, when is Ukraine winning that thing? Or, dare I suggest, not winning ar all? lol