General Are we really heading towards WW3

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BeardOfKnowledge

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Jul 22, 2015
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what troops? we had 1500 troops in afghanistan and since then they have done everything they can to ruin our military. they have spent 9 years gaying it u with DEI shit now our army is overweight blue haired dudes with a tampon shoved up their dick holes
Don't know about you, but I will dodge the fuck out of that draft.
 

MountainMedic

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This is pretty wild. Not sure what these European countries are thinking, they are all broke and they all depend on US to be the reason Russia or China from fucking around too much. And as said, they depend on Russia for their gas.

Are they counting on war to bolster their economies?

Are they trying to threaten Putin? Because that's stupid, you pick a fight with him and he will not back down even if he wants to. In his view this is an existential threat. And you aren't going to beat him back into anything that looks like an L, he just won't accept it.

"Boots on the ground and planes in the air" will only get more young men killed and realistically could kick off ww3 as China is somewhat obligated to step in if it gets bad for Russia.
At some point someone will launch nukes when they feel all is lost.

This is a scary thought.
 

Jamie999

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This is pretty wild. Not sure what these European countries are thinking, they are all broke and they all depend on US to be the reason Russia or China from fucking around too much. And as said, they depend on Russia for their gas.

Are they counting on war to bolster their economies?

Are they trying to threaten Putin? Because that's stupid, you pick a fight with him and he will not back down even if he wants to. In his view this is an existential threat. And you aren't going to beat him back into anything that looks like an L, he just won't accept it.

"Boots on the ground and planes in the air" will only get more young men killed and realistically could kick off ww3 as China is somewhat obligated to step in if it gets bad for Russia.
At some point someone will launch nukes when they feel all is lost.

This is a scary thought.
I don't think that's it. Russia can pick off 3/4s of the countries in Europe without much of a hassle 1 on 1... But United Europe pushes their shit in (in a conventional war). I think that's their thinking here they want Russia to fear the whole collective as there is really only a couple individual countries that can even give them any trouble on their own.

I actually disagree with all this strategy anyway. There is a huge opportunity here with that will only exist for a moment in time, Russia isn't a communist state anymore.. Europe as a continent and NATO as an alliance has no problem having members who are just as authoritarian (or even more so) as Russia is currently.

Russia being the Boogeymen is American policy that Europe followed along with. With Trump taking a step back globally and in Europe especially combined with him being more receptive to Russia not being the boogeyman... There is an opportunity for Europe to improve Russia relations and even bring them into the fold.

They need to follow Trump's lead and help bring this war to a close though, or at very least get out of the way, then lots of economic partnerships with Russia to begin with. This is easy to do now and there is historical basis for this coming out of war. Obviously the other end of it which is to freeze them out economically history tells us that ends horribly.
 

Jamie999

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Once a traditional politician is back in power in USA Europe can't seek closer ties with Russia, it will be impossible.
 

MountainMedic

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From Putins pov a bunch of nato countries are about to gang up on him.
He will have no reason to be measured in his response.
 

Cornhole Champ

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Nov 22, 2015
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Jesus, what the hell are they thinking


Italian Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni said Ukraine should be granted the security of NATO without the actual membership in the military alliance.

Speaking on the sidelines of a European Union leaders’ meeting in Brussels on Thursday, she said “we need to think about more durable solutions” than sending European peacekeeping troops to Ukraine.



 

MountainMedic

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Sep 28, 2017
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the drums of war are beating

I don't like the reason why, but this should be the norm here as well.
“If I were proposing a return to basic military service, I would say so. We have several models. One of the most appreciated ones is the Swiss model,” he said, adding that in the latter system training is “not compulsory, but there are incentives that cause men to opt for annual training.”

It gives more clarity to the average citizen about what war would actually look like and it puts skin in the game.
Most would be less likely to vote for warmongers because it directly affects them.