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Wiggy

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lol @ anyone that thinks this whole Truth situation was a work.

What it is, is a repeat of them trying to give the Rock Cody's match against Roman two Manias ago

i.e. - WWE fucks up in *spectacular* fashion, the fans revolt, then WWE pivots, spnning it as "this was the plan all along!" or "see, we listen to the fans!"

lol no - you're saving your own ass from monumental fan backlash & trying to avoid the huge amount of bad PR...plus making a bunch of extra $$$ with a now high-profile angle & a bunch of new merch.

Anyone parrotting that it was a work is being the gullible little chump WWE hopes you'll be. lmao

Unless you think Carlito - you know, a situation near-identical to Truth, but without the widespread fan support - is gonna show back up on tv, too?
 

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Per Fightful, R-Truth ignored multiple attempts by WWE throughout the week to reconnect. Despite the company's efforts, he remained silent until Nick Khan personally reached out and called him to work out a new deal.
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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lol @ anyone that thinks this whole Truth situation was a work.

What it is, is a repeat of them trying to give the Rock Cody's match against Roman two Manias ago

i.e. - WWE fucks up in *spectacular* fashion, the fans revolt, then WWE pivots, spnning it as "this was the plan all along!" or "see, we listen to the fans!"

lol no - you're saving your own ass from monumental fan backlash & trying to avoid the huge amount of bad PR...plus making a bunch of extra $$$ with a now high-profile angle & a bunch of new merch.

Anyone parrotting that it was a work is being the gullible little chump WWE hopes you'll be. lmao

Unless you think Carlito - you know, a situation near-identical to Truth, but without the widespread fan support - is gonna show back up on tv, too?
The company who let their active heavyweight champion walk because he wanted to be paid the most, has re-signed someone they cut because he was being overpaid due to a smatterings of boos at two shows?

You realize how utterly insane that is, right?
 

Wiggy

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You're right - it was all a pre-determined work so widespread that they even made sure to include what other talent was or wasn't allowed to wear on tv.

All over a guy so inconsequential, that he's only worth a "smattering of boos at two shows".

Much more realistic.

I can't wait to see what they have planned for Carlito's huge surprise return.
 

Meohfumado

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The company who let their active heavyweight champion walk because he wanted to be paid the most, has re-signed someone they cut because he was being overpaid due to a smatterings of boos at two shows?

You realize how utterly insane that is, right?
While I'm always suspect about any of this shit, I don't think Truth would agree to an angle that has him faking being released on the same day others are actually released. That's not just bad taste, that's practically ghoulish and diabolical, and by all accounts, that's not Truth.
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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While I'm always suspect about any of this shit, I don't think Truth would agree to an angle that has him faking being released on the same day others are actually released. That's not just bad taste, that's practically ghoulish and diabolical, and by all accounts, that's not Truth.
You're assuming he would have known, which he probably wouldn't have. Or that they wouldn't have said "Carlito is retiring and Viking girl doesn't want to wrestle anymore" so we're going to release all of you together. At the end of the day, we'll never know for sure, but between how TKO does business and the way HHH has been able to work people over the last couple years, one seems a lot more likely than the other.
 

Meohfumado

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You're assuming he would have known, which he probably wouldn't have. Or that they wouldn't have said "Carlito is retiring and Viking girl doesn't want to wrestle anymore" so we're going to release all of you together. At the end of the day, we'll never know for sure, but between how TKO does business and the way HHH has been able to work people over the last couple years, one seems a lot more likely than the other.
I'm just not willing to give TKO's WWE that much credit, particularly when there is a "trying to make more money" reason for why the release was legit. They've shown they'll tattoo their own mothers' foreheads with sponsorship logos if it makes them a few more bucks.

Their greed overwhelms any storytelling.
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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You're right - it was all a pre-determined work so widespread that they even made sure to include what other talent was or wasn't allowed to wear on tv.
So....a thing they always do?

All over a guy so inconsequential, that he's only worth a "smattering of boos at two shows".
This is the company that let Francis walk out with the UFC title.
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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I'm just not willing to give TKO's WWE that much credit, particularly when there is a "trying to make more money" reason for why the release was legit. They've shown they'll tattoo their own mothers' foreheads with sponsorship logos if it makes them a few more bucks.

Their greed overwhelms any storytelling.
And that's why "We did it for the fans" makes no sense. Truth couldn't draw 15cents in Chinese money. He and Cena drew the worst SmackDown ratings of like the last 5 years.
 

Meohfumado

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This is the company that let Francis walk out with the UFC title.
Different animal. UFC doesn't even like having stars. WWE makes SUPERstars (granted they've never liked people who get over on their own).

WWE you need a cult of perrsonality, and UFC doesn't care.
 

Meohfumado

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And that's why "We did it for the fans" makes no sense. Truth couldn't draw 15cents in Chinese money. He and Cena drew the worst SmackDown ratings of like the last 5 years.
Doing things to avoid a PR nightmare, wrecking backstage morale, and losing fans/eyeballs does not mean you "did it for the fans."
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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Different animal. UFC doesn't even like having stars. WWE makes SUPERstars (granted they've never liked people who get over on their own).

WWE you need a cult of perrsonality, and UFC doesn't care.
Everyone in WWE is by design a replaceable cog. That was the point of the Roman Reigns experiment.
 

Meohfumado

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In any case, current rumors are Truth's new contract is a limited one, possibly intended to give him one proper final run and go out on his own terms as deserved of a veteran of his status.
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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In any case, current rumors are Truth's new contract is a limited one, possibly intended to give him one proper final run as deserved of a veeteran of his status.
Remember. Last week he tweeted that he was released, all the reports said, "His contract won't be renewed." same as Logan and Carlito. He could be gone at the end of the summer. There's also a story floating around that he wouldn't return any of WWE'a phone calls and that Nick Khan had to call him personally. Which seems somewhat unlikely. As I said earlier, we'll never know for sure what happened because WWE are still carnies.
 

Meohfumado

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Everyone in WWE is by design a replaceable cog. That was the point of the Roman Reigns experiment.
If there's one thing 20 years of video game and software development have taught me, its that design and function often do not match up the way you wish they would.
 

Wiggy

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Truth couldn't draw 15cents in Chinese money. .
Except that his Ron Cena shirt was one of the top sellers in the entire company when this whole shitshow happened.

He and Cena drew the worst SmackDown ratings of like the last 5 years.
All of WWE's ratings are in the toilet. By many calculations, Raw - their flagship show - is getting roughly the same total viewers as fucking Dynamite...which is a complte train wreck.

Doing things to avoid a PR nightmare, wrecking backstage morale, and losing fans/eyeballs does not mean you "did it for the fans."
This. Go to virtually any WWE social media post and see all the disgruntled fans posting about wanting Truth back.

And while dirt sheets will always be dirt sheets, I find it shockingly hard to believe that a whole slew of different sheets will reach out to a whole slew of different talent & employees, all at different levels, and all have the same kinda off-the-record, negative reaction to Truth's contract not being renewed.

So what - this is a company-wide work involving virtually everyone? For R-Truth?

Nope - not believing that for an instant. Especially if guys wanna say he "couldn't draw 15cents in Chinese money".

If he's so worthless, why would the company put this much time & effort behind this elaborate of a ruse? It wouldn't be worth their time, effort, & energy. Most importantly - if he couldn't draw, it wouldn't make money, so there'd be no point.

You can't say he's not worth anything, but then turn around and say the entire company is working everyone based on him.
 

dennis5

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Hopefully now that he's "Ron Killings", this will be a version of the tougher, more aggressive guy we saw in early TNA
 

IschKabibble

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Hopefully now that he's "Ron Killings", this will be a version of the tougher, more aggressive guy we saw in early TNA
Rapping, kid-friendly R-Truth was the worst. He could never keep the timing of his own entrance music.