Society Israel/Iran drama being pumped..4-12-2024

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rmenergy

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Market orders suck, but I just bought Chevron.
Chevron has been restructuring to re-enter the PCMO market in a more competitive fashion. They've recently combined 3 divisions under a single VP to be more vertically structured. Chevron is the only vertically oriented, in-house, oil producer in the US from drilling, refining, base oil sales, additive packages (They own Oronite) & blending. The base oil, additive & blending divisions used to be separate groups that are now "working together".

With BP's attempt to sell off Castrol and the possibility of the entire BP company being sold off, it places Chevron in a position to pickup a larger market share. Shell doesn't have much refining capability anymore (minimal worldwide refining capacity with zero in the US), Valvoline being sold to the Saudi's & Mobil not having additive abilities, Chevron is currently positioned well.
 

jason73

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all trump did was nuke half his own base for his slave masters in israel . he is going to get fucked hard at the midterms
 

vad

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all trump did was nuke half his own base for his slave masters in israel . he is going to get fucked hard at the midterms
One key thing saving it is that the Dems are in complete disarray right now. No leadership at all. I don't think they will have a successful 2026 personally. People have evolved past woke democracy and Democrats have yet to fill the gap they themselves created and left open.
 

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Problem with this theory is there was zero threat to national security.
Military actions have been taken on far flimsier evidence than yesterday's. Personally I don't doubt they were working towards a nuke. You don't build a bunker 200 feet under a mountain and enrich uranium to 60% for medical devices. Given the Ukrainian war, I don't blame a country for believing the only path to sovereignty is to have nukes. But no one other than Russia and China wants a North Korean situation with Iran, so I'm also not surprised action was taken. I just hope it doesn't spiral into yet another war in the litter box of civilization that our great-grandchildren will be paying for.

Democrats would be cheering this if it wasn't Trump calling the shots.
 

sparkuri

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Lol, Christ.

Let me summarize. A parliament vote to shut down the straight is meaningless if they can’t actually shut it down.

Nothing arrogant about it.
How does their nevy get "wiped out", if hypersonic weapons take out all our carrier groups?
That's a possibility, as they have hundreds & we have no defense for it.

When we talk about "international support", we're talking about the Rothschild banking system across the board, with which the BRICS are increasingly decoupling from.
And we're talking about their undereducated opinionated populations who're brainwashed by propaganda owned by those cartels.

China, Russia, India, Brazil, South Africa....the vast majoity of the muslim world, as well as the people of the world, are not on board with the policies of the west, or "international community".
 

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Chevron has been restructuring to re-enter the PCMO market in a more competitive fashion. They've recently combined 3 divisions under a single VP to be more vertically structured. Chevron is the only vertically oriented, in-house, oil producer in the US from drilling, refining, base oil sales, additive packages (They own Oronite) & blending. The base oil, additive & blending divisions used to be separate groups that are now "working together".

With BP's attempt to sell off Castrol and the possibility of the entire BP company being sold off, it places Chevron in a position to pickup a larger market share. Shell doesn't have much refining capability anymore (minimal worldwide refining capacity with zero in the US), Valvoline being sold to the Saudi's & Mobil not having additive abilities, Chevron is currently positioned well.
Exactly why I chose them, they are independent with nearly zero exposure and reverberation impact from exterior conflict, just upside in my view.
Unless the Gulf of America takes a hit.
 

segfault

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One key thing saving it is that the Dems are in complete disarray right now. No leadership at all. I don't think they will have a successful 2026 personally. People have evolved past woke democracy and Democrats have yet to fill the gap they themselves created and left open.
I suspect Democrat leadership are shitting their Depends over this sentiment:


They can't draw donors and voters as things are. But they also not willing to let go of their power/wealth for the sake of the party. A third party split would end the DNC for the foreseeable future.
 

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Military actions have been taken on far flimsier evidence than yesterday's. Personally I don't doubt they were working towards a nuke. You don't build a bunker 200 feet under a mountain and enrich uranium to 60% for medical devices. Given the Ukrainian war, I don't blame a country for believing the only path to sovereignty is to have nukes. But no one other than Russia and China wants a North Korean situation with Iran, so I'm also not surprised action was taken. I just hope it doesn't spiral into yet another war in the litter box of civilization that our great-grandchildren will be paying for.

Democrats would be cheering this if it wasn't Trump calling the shots.
why is the US and Israel the arbiter of who can and can not have a nuke? they dont own the world . north korea and pakistan have nukes . you dont see them getting bombed. they are every bit of a loose cannon as iran is
 

rmenergy

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Exactly why I chose them, they are independent with nearly zero exposure and reverberation impact from exterior conflict, just upside in my view.
Unless the Gulf of America takes a hit.
They do have substantial investments in Kazakhstan, Indonesia & other foreign countries (several). But with the HQ exit from CA, their tax burden at home has been substantially lowered & still have significant US production (as well as Central & South American production).
 

segfault

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why is the US and Israel the arbiter of who can and can not have a nuke? they dont own the world . north korea and pakistan have nukes . you dont see them getting bombed. they are every bit of a loose cannon as iran is
An axiomatic truth about geopolitics: might makes right. I get the sentiment, but I also think any country complaining about US hegemony would get its hands just as dirty if they enjoyed the same position of power. There isn't a human culture on earth not corrupted by power. Best you can hope for is least shitty.

But I agree with you, I don't think Iran has a nuclear death wish. They just want the leverage that comes with a nuclear arsenal, considering every regional conflict with Israel somehow becomes a global one.
 

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why is the US and Israel the arbiter of who can and can not have a nuke? they dont own the world . north korea and pakistan have nukes . you dont see them getting bombed. they are every bit of a loose cannon as iran is
Power dictates that. We can enforce anything we want.
 

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An axiomatic truth about geopolitics: might makes right. I get the sentiment, but I also think any country complaining about US hegemony would get its hands just as dirty if they enjoyed the same position of power. There isn't a human culture on earth not corrupted by power. Best you can hope for is least shitty.

But I agree with you, I don't think Iran has a nuclear death wish. They just want the leverage that comes with a nuclear arsenal, considering every regional conflict with Israel somehow becomes a global one.
Agreed.
The problem is, who's less shitty?
The people beating their wives into submission & fucking goats, or the people controlling population density by releasing & mandating bioweapons & drugs, experimenting on humans en masse with cancer & "health care" while kidnapping & trafficking children all over the solar system?

I missed alot on both sides, but I'd prefer blatant stupidity than backstabbing, aka deception, which seems to be Jacob's strength over Esau.
And moreso, I'd prefer adhering to the U.S. Constitution & not manufacturing enemies that force the erosion of the document.
 

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who gave iran the uranium in the first place ? america. who gave them pallets of cash to used to build their nuclear program ? america
 

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How does their nevy get "wiped out", if hypersonic weapons take out all our carrier groups?
That's a possibility, as they have hundreds & we have no defense for it.

When we talk about "international support", we're talking about the Rothschild banking system across the board, with which the BRICS are increasingly decoupling from.
And we're talking about their undereducated opinionated populations who're brainwashed by propaganda owned by those cartels.

China, Russia, India, Brazil, South Africa....the vast majoity of the muslim world, as well as the people of the world, are not on board with the policies of the west, or "international community".
What? What is it you think would happen if Iran actually hit a carrier with a hypersonic missile? Without even getting into the fact the U.S. is protective of those resources and never lets them travel without extensive security measures, Iran would be committing suicide. It turns from nuclear weapon neutralization and waterway security management to a full scale, regime changing, military assault. The lifespan of anyone involved with the current government dwindles down to hours. Striking a U.S. carrier would be an open declaration of war. Thus far, Iran has shown enough skill for self-preservation to not be that reckless and stupid.

And what do you mean how does their Navy get wiped out? By attempting to shut down a straight so economically impactful, the U.S. decides it’s in their best interest to remove any obstacles. It would take a lot more than some hypersonic missiles to defend themselves if the gloves came off. It blows my mind people see what happened last night and still don’t understand how terrifying the U.S. military can be when it chooses.

And that’s not arrogance, anyone with an ounce of objectivity can see they’ve demonstrated as much.
 

vad

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this is the american arrogance i am talking about . no wonder the entire world hates you
I'm going to reach and say your British. It used to be you guys over there who could do this. That changed. It will change again. Has nothing to do with who really, it's just a pattern of life. But sure you can stew in your non air conditioned cobblestone home and be mad at Americans.
 

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The world is being trolled. I dont believe we bombed Iran for a second, and I don't believe Trump is really trying to overthrow their regime on Israel's behalf. I do believe he's a good actor though.

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I'm going to reach and say your British. It used to be you guys over there who could do this. That changed. It will change again. Has nothing to do with who really, it's just a pattern of life. But sure you can stew in your non air conditioned cobblestone home and be mad at Americans.
So your defense of his observation is "Well, people felt the same way about the empire before" ? Christ on a cracker.