Society Israel/Iran drama being pumped..4-12-2024

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jason73

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Pretty sure they don’t have the legal authority to do this, and they basically piss of planet Earth with any attempt.
That means they would have to enforce the closure themselves. Good luck.
did trump have legal authority to bomb their nuclear sites?
 

jason73

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i guess you can just do shit now . maybe he can bomb the 3 gorges dam next and tell china they are not allowed to retaliate
 

itskrisdude

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did trump have legal authority to bomb their nuclear sites?
Debatable, apparently. I’m not familiar enough with constitutional law to know with any certainty. If anyone in the U.S. wants to challenge or impeach based on the decision to bomb, they’re free to initiate those proceedings.

But that’s not even resembling the point. If Iran attempts to close the straight, it fucks with much more than the U.S. Even immediate neighbors of Iran would be livid. The international support would be close to zero, and that’s something they’d need to carry out a closure for any prolonged period of time.

If they decide to use their navy to enforce a closure, their navy gets wiped out. And considering the global economic ramifications of closing the straight, no one would really bat an eye.

So you tell me, with limited military resources and almost no international support, how to they carry out a sustained shut down?
 

itskrisdude

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Lol, Christ.

Let me summarize. A parliament vote to shut down the straight is meaningless if they can’t actually shut it down.

Nothing arrogant about it.
 

vad

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what do you think i mean?
I just mean that without enforcement laws are little more than opinions and preferences. Who is going to stop him? He is enforcement incarnate, atop the most destructive force this globe has ever seen outside of natural disasters. Our government will try things like impeachment but come on.
 

segfault

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The 1973 War Powers resolution states that the POTUS has leeway to use the military to address immediate threats to national security. He needs to inform congress within 48 hours (done, they were informed prior to the public announcement) and the military needs to begin withdrawal within 60-days. Again, done.

The Dims are just grasping at straws as always, hoping no one remembers Bosnia, Libya, Syria, Yemen and countless other military actions, many of which were done by Democrats.

My guess is what they were really butthurt about was the airtight opsec so they didn't get a chance to leak information to our enemies.
 

vad

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The 1973 War Powers resolution states that the POTUS has leeway to use the military to address immediate threats to national security. He needs to inform congress within 48 hours (done, they were informed prior to the public announcement) and the military needs to begin withdrawal within 60-days. Again, done.

The Dims are just grasping at straws as always, hoping no one remembers Bosnia, Libya, Syria, Yemen and countless other military actions, many of which were done by Democrats.

My guess is what they were really butthurt about was the airtight opsec so they didn't get a chance to leak information to our enemies.
Yeah they refer to them as military operations, not war. For example calling the what we did in Iraq and Afghanistan a war is inaccurate, technically. It was armed conflict.
 

vad

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The 1973 War Powers resolution states that the POTUS has leeway to use the military to address immediate threats to national security. He needs to inform congress within 48 hours (done, they were informed prior to the public announcement) and the military needs to begin withdrawal within 60-days. Again, done.

The Dims are just grasping at straws as always, hoping no one remembers Bosnia, Libya, Syria, Yemen and countless other military actions, many of which were done by Democrats.

My guess is what they were really butthurt about was the airtight opsec so they didn't get a chance to leak information to our enemies.
This impeachment stuff is just now out of control. The second a POTUS does something it's oh my God we must impeach. It's wearing thin.
 

vad

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I think the last time we declared war was 2002?

Every president since has flattened a country.
 

segfault

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This impeachment stuff is just now out of control. The second a POTUS does something it's oh my God we must impeach. It's wearing thin.
They don't have the numbers in the House to impeach a fucking grapefruit. The shit for brains bartender yapping about it knows that. This is all performative.
 

segfault

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Pretty sure they don’t have the legal authority to do this, and they basically piss of planet Earth with any attempt.
That means they would have to enforce the closure themselves. Good luck.
What's funny is that this screws China and Russia far harder than it will the US. Don't see this lasting for long.
 

Wanderluster

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The 1973 War Powers resolution states that the POTUS has leeway to use the military to address immediate threats to national security. He needs to inform congress within 48 hours (done, they were informed prior to the public announcement) and the military needs to begin withdrawal within 60-days. Again, done.

The Dims are just grasping at straws as always, hoping no one remembers Bosnia, Libya, Syria, Yemen and countless other military actions, many of which were done by Democrats.

My guess is what they were really butthurt about was the airtight opsec so they didn't get a chance to leak information to our enemies.
Problem with this theory is there was zero threat to national security.