General UFC going to Paramount - no more PPVs

This is just the first deal remember they said said they were going to chunk the UFC so if they've got this deal with 4 I bet ESPN and Netflix will get 4 each. Dana also said they UFC may still be have 1 actual ppv a year.
 
MountainMedic said:
We'll see how it goes. I wonder if the servers will crumble under the weight of a big card like Netflix lol.

I expect more changes, they always do a bunch of shit to "mark the new era".
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The UFC is going to be chopped up between around 3 networks this is only the first inked deal. Expect ESPN and Netflix to also get chunks. There are 13 ppvs a year and Paramount only bought 4 of them.
 
Whatever it is, it will be watered down

They have no reason to stack a card



I just hope the Apex is gone, live events are amazing and build fans
I usually don't watch 80% of the scraps in the Apex

Don't expect me to be an active fan when there are 50 people in attendance, do the fighters and fans the respect of actually having a few thousand people watching live. That is what MMA was built on.
 
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Fan_of_Fanboys said:
Where did you see that? The stuff posted so far in the thread explicitly stated paramount is getting all 13 for the USA market
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They haven't seen anything - it's just a bunch of guys lamenting that the sky is falling for no reason.

Don't get me wrong - I'm not a UFC apologist by any stretch. And they've had watered down cards & had issues for years.

But if you think this deal is gonna somehow be the proverbial nail in the coffin, there's never gonna be a good fight again, they have no incentive to grow or they'll regret not doing PPVs, you're crazy. WWE abandoned the PPV model years ago and they're now more profitable than ever (and they were running like 14 PPVs a year at that point, IIRC).

NFL, MLB, etc has never had any type of PPV model and every time they sign a new tv / meda rights deal, it doesn't mean they automatically stop working on the product.

If the UFC has less than stellar, watered down cards, it's because at 13 numbered events & 30 Fight Nights, they're running an event on average of every 8-9 days - not because they've signed a new deal to be on a streaming service.
 
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Paramount plus spending 7.7 billion is a retarded business move.

the only company who can afford to spend billions is amazon.

I bet Paramount goes bankrupt from this and ends up owing the UFC billions I see a lawsuit in the future.

In order for this deal to make sense the UFC has to generate more than 7.7 billion during the duration of this contract.
 
Jesus X said:
Paramount plus spending 7.7 billion is a retarded business move.

the only company who can afford to spend billions is amazon.

I bet Paramount goes bankrupt from this and ends up owing the UFC billions I see a lawsuit in the future.

In order for this deal to make sense the UFC has to generate more than 7.7 billion during the duration of this contract.
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Or its all part of some larger package being built to be sold.

Its going to be interesting to see how this all plays out and how the ufc maintains/changes the overall product to make it work and keep it interesting.
The second part is the real problem, its hard to stay interested in a watered down league over multiple platforms.
Hopefully this deal solves part of that.
 
Jesus X said:
Paramount plus spending 7.7 billion is a retarded business move.

the only company who can afford to spend billions is amazon.

I bet Paramount goes bankrupt from this and ends up owing the UFC billions I see a lawsuit in the future.

In order for this deal to make sense the UFC has to generate more than 7.7 billion during the duration of this contract.
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The value of live sports has absolutely sky rocketed in the last decade because it's the only thing most people watch live. Commercials for anything else are borderline useless because we stream it or we record and fast forward. Live sports is pretty much the only way to have ad revenue.

The average NFL game, not a playoff or the Super Bowl, generates $22 million in ad revenue. The playoffs, thanksgiving day games, etc all generate more.

The big UFC events probably bring in more than $22 million and the smaller events might do half that? But that still projects to $4.5 billion and $7 billion. And that's in today's dollars. If this brings in more viewers, and as live events continue to increase in value, the deal becomes less crazy. Plus, each new subscriber is bringing in money for the access.
 
MountainMedic said:
The second part is the real problem, its hard to stay interested in a watered down league over multiple platforms.
Hopefully this deal solves part of that.
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This is huge and where I think the value lies for fans. I barely follow the sport but I'll definitely sign up this January and start watching again. Every live fight in one place, essentially one event every week or so, for $120/year. Not so often I'll get worn out, not so expensive I can't justify the cost. I bet a lot of people sign up come January
 
I remember saying years ago when ppvs hit $55+ that I was going from ordering every one to just the big ones. And if they offered a ppv package of something like $300/year I would sign up. And that would have generated more money because I wasn't spending $300 for the handful I bought.

And remember UFC only get ~60%of the ppv cost. Providers get the rest. So that's a lower overhead
 
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