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Babs Wagner Dec 22, 2015 at 9:30 am


I am sad the Swedes have “welcomed” themselves out of a country, and I fear for my dear United States of America. Our President would like nothing more than for his brethren Muslims to come to roost right here in the United States. Until people wake up and realize that our cultures cannot mix, and not because we don’t welcome them, but because they don’t welcome our way of life and despise it, until people realize this, well, we may “welcome” ourselves out of a country too.

A nice balanced view from Babs here at the top of the comments section.
 

SNIDELY WHIPLASH

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Babs Wagner Dec 22, 2015 at 9:30 am


I am sad the Swedes have “welcomed” themselves out of a country, and I fear for my dear United States of America. Our President would like nothing more than for his brethren Muslims to come to roost right here in the United States. Until people wake up and realize that our cultures cannot mix, and not because we don’t welcome them, but because they don’t welcome our way of life and despise it, until people realize this, well, we may “welcome” ourselves out of a country too.

A nice balanced view from Babs here at the top of the comments section.
Calling Obama a Muslim 'balanced'? This is part of why this is getting out of control.
 

Jesus X

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the only thing I found on google about mosque burning happened a year ago this website seems to be lying about it happening recently and a civil war breaking out.
 

SNIDELY WHIPLASH

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LOL No man, a lot of what I say is sarcasm, not a good habit on forums I'm finding out:).
It was more directed at 'Babs' than you. These sites are trying to start a war as much as ISIS imo

We have to civilize our way north of these fools.
 
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Robbie Hart

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the only thing I found on google about mosque burning happened a year ago this website seems to be lying about it happening recently and a civil war breaking out.
This website or a website you found on Google?
 

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Calling Obama a Muslim 'balanced'? This is part of why this is getting out of control.
yep, i agree that's the root of the out of controlledness...bab's comments sounded like something ann coulter would say.
i get annoyed when i read ann's views on how things should be in the U.S..she's a well educated lady but says some closed minded shit. ...and so many americans share her sentiment.
 

SNIDELY WHIPLASH

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yep, i agree that's the root of the out of controlledness...bab's comments sounded like something ann coulter would say.
i get annoyed when i read ann's views on how things should be in the U.S..she's a well educated lady but says some closed minded shit. ...and so many americans share her sentiment.
It just seems weird that Americans could be so continuously naive.

Al Queda said they were going to ruin us financially, what did we do? We spent our way into a financial crisis. Isis wants to start a religious war and now Americans are playing right into their hands. I'm not saying it should be business as usual but demonizing a good chunk of Muslims will lead to exactly what we THINK we're preventing.

Worse, we have Donald Trump around and a mint of people identify with that xenophobic nonsense. What is everybody else supposed to think, that we're all still friends?
 
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what a fucking tragedy.

not just the burning but this whole situation.

serious question, do you think the ME and the current war would be like this if the US left Iraq alone instead in the wake of 9/11?
 

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It just seems weird that Americans could be so continuously naive.

Al Queda said they were going to ruin us financially, what did we do? We spent our way into a financial crisis. Isis wants to start a religious war and now Americans are playing right into their hands. I'm not saying it should be business as usual but demonizing a good chunk of Muslims will lead to exactly what we THINK we're preventing.
exactly...i thought trumps muslim ban statement was incredibly socially irresponsible...just stirred up hate and induced panic.
truth be told. i think..any muslims trying to come to the U.S now are just running for safety.
if there are bad guy terrorists that we need protection from...they're already here...waiting for their activation notice on the ps3.
 
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exactly...i thought trumps muslim ban statement was incredibly socially irresponsible...just stirred up hate and induced panic.

totally!! but what is even fucking worse is that if Sanders tails off from being a presidential candidate, then you are left between hilary and Trump.

if I was american there is ZERO chance I am voting for that chick regardless of how much Trump hates on anyone.

so you are left with Trump.... a situation like this is how a guy like hitler gets elected. lol.
 

SNIDELY WHIPLASH

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what a fucking tragedy.

not just the burning but this whole situation.

serious question, do you think the ME and the current war would be like this if the US left Iraq alone instead in the wake of 9/11?
Hard to say, there are always tradeoffs for these things. People always act like the other course of action would've been perfect AFTER we've already gone down one path. I imagine if Obama hadn't bailed out the banks we would've had a crisis so big we would still be in it, yet everybody Monday-morning quarterbacks for their team and says he shouldn't have done it.

Politics is a team sport for most people but what I am seeing now disturbs the hell out of me.

I wasn't a big fan of GW Bush but I went to see him speak in Philadelphia and it's still one of the most important things I've ever done, to watch a sitting President speak. I would never root for another country over the USA no matter what the case.

We now have people so blatantly admiring the RUSSIAN President over our own it's pathetic, yet these same people call themselves patriots.

You have Senators engaging other countries without the approval of the President, undermining our foreign policy. They've shut down the Government just to prove a point.

It's fucking anarchy and these guys appear to thrive on how far they can take it.
 
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Hard to say, there are always tradeoffs for these things. People always act like the other course of action would've been perfect AFTER we've already gone down one path. I imagine if Obama hadn't bailed out the banks we would've had a crisis so big we would still be in it, yet everybody Monday-morning quarterbacks for their team and says he shouldn't have done it.

Politics is a team sport for most people but what I am seeing now disturbs the hell out of me.

I wasn't a big fan of GW Bush but I went to see him speak in Philadelphia and it's still one of the most important things I've ever done, to watch a sitting President speak. I would never root for another country over the USA no matter what the case.

We now have people so blatantly admiring the RUSSIAN President over our own it's pathetic, yet these same people call themselves patriots.

You have Senators engaging other countries without the approval of the President, undermining our foreign policy. They've shut down the Government just to prove a point.

It's fucking anarchy and these guys appear to thrive on how far they can take it.

so that is a lot of text and emotion to take in lol. and I just took a few honey oil hoots, but I will do my best.

I completely agree that its hard to say and hindsight is always more clear. but I just cant shake the thought of that if we didnt go into iraq for resources and even then, didnt kill off sadam. we probably wouldnt have had this problem. and by "we" I mean all the forces from the countries that went to afganistan, Iraq etc.

now of course we could have a problem if we didnt do that at all. we probably would have had the banking crisis sooner. and things would probably be much worse than they are now. and personally, why not just come out and say "we are going to iraq to take the oil because we need it to keep things good on the homefront" I would be much more on board with that then the lies. it makes things that happen later on seem suspect. I cant get on board with the whole "I would never root for another country over (insert whatever country you are from here) no matter what the case." mentality. imo, nationalism only teaches you to hate people you dont know & that you have never met. that being said, I am not fond of the refugees. but I understand that they cant stay in that region. I also understand that taking in huge refugees regardless of your populaces feelings is a recipe for disaster. its a huge clusterfuck of a situation. but to let them die, either at home or in a refugee camp, is not the way to go. on the other side of the coin, there are always casualties of war, and this is the first time people actually care enough to help them out to this extent.
 

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so that is a lot of text and emotion to take in lol. and I just took a few honey oil hoots, but I will do my best.

I completely agree that its hard to say and hindsight is always more clear. but I just cant shake the thought of that if we didnt go into iraq for resources and even then, didnt kill off sadam. we probably wouldnt have had this problem. and by "we" I mean all the forces from the countries that went to afganistan, Iraq etc. now of course we could have a problem if we didnt do that at all. we probably would have had the banking crisis sooner. and things would probably be much worse than they are now. and personally, why not just come out and say "we are going to iraq to take the oil because we need it to keep things good on the homefront" I would be much more on board with that then the lies. it makes things that happen later on seem suspect.
Agreed.


I cant get on board with the whole "I would never root for another country over (insert whatever country you are from here) no matter what the case." mentality. imo, nationalism only teaches you to hate people you dont know that you have never met. that being said, I am not fond of the refugees. but I understand that they cant stay in that region. I also understand that taking in huge refugees regardless of your populaces feelings is a recipe for disaster. its a huge clusterfuck of a situation. but to let them die, either at home or in a refugee camp, is not the way to go. on the other side of the coin, there are always casualties of war, and this is the first time people actually care enough to help them out to this extent.
This may be true if we weren't talking about America. The overwhelming concept of America is that we take in 'tired poor and weak'. Our whole society was supposed to be built on the idea of bringing together various cultures to follow their dreams. It's written in our bylaws and constitution, so no, I would never root against that. When we say 'the American way' that's what we're supposed to be talking about.

What's happening is that we now have people who think THEIR America is the only America. 'Speak English!'. 'Conform!' 'Be like us!'. I'm not rooting for that shit at all.
 
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This may be true if we weren't talking about America. The overwhelming concept of America is that we take in 'tired poor and weak'. Our whole society was supposed to be built on the idea of bringing together various cultures to follow their dreams. It's written in our bylaws and constitution, so no, I would never root against that. When we say 'the American way' that's what we're supposed to be talking about.

What's happening is that we now have people who think THEIR America is the only America. 'Speak English!'. 'Conform!' 'Be like us!'. I'm not rooting for that shit at all.
I completely agree. I see people all pissed off because people are different and "arent north american" (I say north america because we have the same shit here in Canada.).... please, tell tell me what an american looks like?! now I am the first to admit that I dont like certain groups of people more than others, we all do, its in our basic human nature. but thats a far cry from the extreme people are going... I dont even know the guys name that lives down the street from me, but I have lived basically beside him for 4 years. so why should we be so enamored with what other languages people speak or what they look like? to be North American? again, tell me what a North American looks like.
 

SNIDELY WHIPLASH

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We're all very different people. We're not Watusi. We're not Spartans. We're Americans, with a capital 'A', huh? Do you know what that means? Do ya? That means that our forefathers were kicked out of every decent country in the world. We are the wretched refuse. We're the underdog. We're mutts! Here's proof: his nose is cold! But there's no animal that's more faithful, that's more loyal, more loveable than the mutt.