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Darqnezz

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It seems that some of you lemmings have blind faith in you governments. I don't know how that can be possible when we know politics is a corrupt occupation. Think I'm a tin-foil hat wearing nutjob? Check it out for yourself.

#1 Project MKUltra: Sometimes referred to as the CIA's mind control program, was the code name given to an illegal program of experiments on human subjects, designed and undertaken by the United States Central Intelligence Agency (CIA). Experiments on humans were intended to identify and develop drugs and procedures to be used in interrogations and torture, in order to weaken the individual to force confessions through mind control. Organized through the Scientific Intelligence Division of the CIA, the project coordinated with the Special Operations Division of the U.S. Army's Chemical Corps. The program began in the early 1950s, was officially sanctioned in 1953, was reduced in scope in 1964, further curtailed in 1967 and officially halted in 1973. The program engaged in many illegal activities; in particular it used unwitting U.S. and Canadian citizens as its test subjects, which led to controversy regarding its legitimacy. MKUltra used numerous methodologies to manipulate people's mental states and alter brain functions, including the surreptitious administration of drugs (especially LSD) and other chemicals, hypnosis, sensory deprivation, isolation, verbal and sexual abuse, as well as various forms of torture.

The scope of Project MKUltra was broad, with research undertaken at 80 institutions, including 44 colleges and universities, as well as hospitals, prisons, and pharmaceutical companies. The CIA operated through these institutions using
front organizations, although sometimes top officials at these institutions were aware of the CIA's involvement.

As the US Supreme Court later noted, MKULTRA was: concerned with "the research and development of chemical, biological, and radiological materials capable of employment in clandestine operations to control human behavior." The program consisted of some 149 subprojects which the Agency contracted out to various universities, research foundations, and similar institutions. At least 80 institutions and 185 private researchers participated. Because the Agency funded MKUltra indirectly, many of the participating individuals were unaware that they were dealing with the Agency.

Project MKUltra was first brought to public attention in 1975 by the
Church Committee of the U.S. Congress, and a Gerald Ford commission to investigate CIA activities within the United States. Investigative efforts were hampered by the fact that CIA Director Richard Helms ordered all MKUltra files destroyed in 1973; the Church Committee and Rockefeller Commission investigations relied on the sworn testimony of direct participants and on the relatively small number of documents that survived Helms' destruction order.

In 1977, a
Freedom of Information Act request uncovered a cache of 20,000 documents relating to project MKUltra, which led to Senate hearings later that same year. In July 2001, some further surviving information regarding MKUltra was declassified.
 
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The obvious conclusion one has to draw is these activities proved fruitful and have since been greatly refined or improved upon. Much like military technology, whatever "they" admit to doing or having, is only because they have something much much better that is undisclosed.
 

kneeblock

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The obvious conclusion one has to draw is these activities proved fruitful and have since been greatly refined or improved upon. Much like military technology, whatever "they" admit to doing or having, is only because they have something much much better that is undisclosed.
I wouldn't say that's the obvious conclusion. How successful was the program? Where does the funding come from? If pharmaceutical mind control techniques are prevalent in the US intelligence field, has it been sold or shared with allies? Have any programmed agents been discovered?

MK Ultra was pretty stupid when you read about it. Having people drop acid, take heroin or get stoned does obviously make them susceptible to suggestion, but whether it's lasting suggestion is pretty much in doubt based on everything we know about these drugs today.

Also we know there are drugs out there that are much more powerful and effective in simulating mind control or at least total surrender, i.e. Devil's Breath or roofies. So even if such a project continues to this day, the most important thing to discern would be its effects. Some say mass shooters are victims of these type of programs despite in many cases their having documented mental health issues. The biggest question I'd have about pharmacological brainwashing is that it seems so costly and inefficient. Jihadists have ably demonstrated that there are much more low cost/low effort means of converting people into puppets.
 

Darqnezz

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# 2 The Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment: was an infamous clinical study conducted between 1932 and 1972 by the U.S. Public Health Service to study the natural progression of untreated syphilis in rural African-American men in Alabama. They were told that they were receiving free health care from the U.S. government. Free healthcare for poor black folks? Sound familiar?

The Public Health Service started working on this study in 1932 during the
Great Depression, in collaboration with Tuskegee University, a historically black college in Alabama. Investigators enrolled in the study a total of 600 impoverished, African American sharecroppers from Macon County, Alabama. Of these men, 399 had previously contracted syphilis before the study began, and 201 did not have the disease. The men were given free medical care, meals, and free burial insurance for participating in the study. After funding for treatment was lost, the study was continued without informing the men they would never be treated. None of the men infected were ever told that they had the disease, and none were treated with penicillin even after the antibiotic became proven for the treatment of syphilis. According to the Centers for Disease Control, the men were told they were being treated for "bad blood", a local term for various illnesses that include syphilis, anemia, and fatigue.

The 40-year study was controversial for reasons related to
ethical standards because researchers knowingly failed to treat patients appropriately after the 1940s validation of penicillin as an effective cure for the disease they were studying. Revelation in 1972 of study failures by a whistleblower led to major changes in U.S. law and regulation on the protection of participants in clinical studies. Now studies require informed consent communication of diagnosis, and accurate reporting of test results.

By 1947, penicillin had become the standard treatment for syphilis. Choices available to the doctors involved in the study might have included treating all syphilitic subjects and closing the study, or splitting off a
control group for testing with penicillin. Instead, the Tuskegee scientists continued the study without treating any participants; they withheld penicillin and information about it from the patients. In addition, scientists prevented participants from accessing syphilis treatment programs available to other residents in the area. The study continued, under numerous US Public Health Service supervisors, until 1972, when a leak to the press resulted in its termination on November 16 of that year. The victims of the study, all African American, included numerous men who died of syphilis, 40 wives who contracted the disease, and 19 children born with congenital syphilis.

The Tuskegee Syphilis Study, cited as "arguably the most infamous biomedical research study in U.S. history", led to the 1979
Belmont Report and the establishment of the Office for Human Research Protections (OHRP). It also led to federal laws and regulations requiring Institutional Review Boards for the protection of human subjects in studies involving them.

Hey, the government is here to protect you. We only have your best interest at heart.
 

Darqnezz

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#3 . Operation Northwoods

After the failed Bay of Pigs invasion of Cuba in 1961, in the midst of the Cold War, a top secret plan was formulated, called Operation Northwoods. The operation was signed off on by the Joint Chiefs of Staff and made it all the way to President Kennedy’s desk, where he refused to sign off on the diabolical plot. Some of the most disturbing revelations of the op called for U.S. government agents to carry out terrorist attacks within the United States.

“We could develop a Communist Cuban terror campaign in the Miami area, in other Florida cities and even in Washington. The terror campaign could be pointed at Cuban refugees seeking haven in the United States. We could sink a boatload of Cubans en route to Florida (real or simulated). We could foster attempts on lives of Cuban refugees in the United States even to the extent of wounding in instances to be widely publicized. Exploding a few plastic bombs in carefully chosen spots, the arrest of Cuban agents and the release of prepared documents substantiating Cuban involvement also would be helpful in projecting the idea of an irresponsible government.”

To justify using the U.S. military in Cuba, the military was willing to engage in actual terrorist attacks on American soil. Let that sink in for a minute. This is not a crazy conspiracy theory, this actually happened and the only reason it wasn’t operationalized is because Kennedy said no.

Hey, the government is here to protect you. We only have your best interest at heart. You can trust us.
 

Darqnezz

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#4. PRISM (Big brother is watching)
is a clandestine surveillance program under which the United States National Security Agency (NSA) collects internet communications from at least nine major US internet companies. Since 2001 the United States government has increased its scope for such surveillance, and so this program was launched in 2007.

PRISM is a government
code name for a data-collection effort known officially by the SIGAD US-984XN. The PRISM program collects stored internet communications based on demands made to internet companies such as Google Inc. under Section 702 of the FISA Amendments Act of 2008 to turn over any data that match court-approved search terms. The NSA can use these PRISM requests to target communications that were encrypted when they traveled across the internet backbone, to focus on stored data that telecommunication filtering systems discarded earlier, and to get data that is easier to handle, among other things.

PRISM began in 2007 in the wake of the passage of the
Protect America Act under the Bush Administration.The program is operated under the supervision of the U.S. Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISA Court, or FISC) pursuant to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA). Its existence was leaked six years later by NSA contractor Edward Snowden, who warned that the extent of mass data collection was far greater than the public knew and included what he characterized as "dangerous" and "criminal" activities. The disclosures were published by The Guardian and The Washington Post on June 6, 2013. Subsequent documents have demonstrated a financial arrangement between NSA's Special Source Operations division (SSO) and PRISM partners in the millions of dollars.

Documents indicate that PRISM is "the number one source of raw intelligence used for NSA analytic reports", and it accounts for 91% of the NSA's internet traffic acquired under
FISA section 702 authority." The leaked information came to light one day after the revelation that the FISA Court had been ordering a subsidiary of telecommunications company Verizon Communications to turn over to the NSA logs tracking all of its customers' telephone calls.

U.S. government officials have disputed some aspects of the Guardian and Washington Post stories and have defended the program by asserting it cannot be used on domestic targets without a
warrant, that it has helped to prevent acts of terrorism, and that it receives independent oversight from the federal government's executive, judicial and legislative branches.
Snowden's subsequent disclosures included statements that governments such as the United Kingdom's GCHQ also undertook mass interception and tracking of internet and communications data is described by Germany as "nightmarish" if true – allegations that the NSA engaged in "dangerous" and "criminal" activity by "hacking" civilian infrastructure networks in other countries such as "universities, hospitals, and private businesses", and alleged that compliance offered only very limited restrictive effect on mass data collection practices (including of Americans) since restrictions "are policy-based, not technically based, and can change at any time", adding that "Additionally, audits are cursory, incomplete, and easily fooled by fake justifications", with numerous self-granted exceptions, and that NSA policies encourage staff to assume the benefit of the doubt in cases of uncertainty.

In other words, everything you've done or said using electronic communication (Internet or phone), since 2007 (including dick pics, boob shots, & horrendous MMA picks), has been recorded & backed up somewhere.

Hey, the government is here to protect you. We only have your best interest at heart. You can trust us.
 
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Darqnezz

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#5. The Hillsborough cover-up

The Hillsborough disaster was a human crush that caused the deaths of 96 people and injured 766 others, at a football match between Liverpool and Nottingham Forest at Hillsborough Stadium, Sheffield, England, on 15 April 1989. The 1990 official inquiry into the disaster, the Taylor Report, concluded that "the main reason for the disaster was the failure of police control." The findings of the report resulted in the elimination of standing terraces at all major football stadiums in England, Wales and Scotland. It remains the worst stadium-related disaster in English sports history, and one of the world's worst football disasters.

The match was the
1988–89 FA Cup semi-final, with Hillsborough, home ground of Sheffield Wednesday, selected as a neutral venue. Being the latter stage of a high profile competition, the game was broadcast on live television. In English football, fans are routinely segregated to avoid crowd trouble; at the time of the disaster fans had a reputation for hooliganism, which meant that terraces were additionally divided into pens, enclosed at the sides and front in fencing. The crush occurred in pens in the Leppings Lane stand, allocated to Liverpool fans. Entry was possible only via one of seven decrepit turnstiles, a restriction that led to dangerous overcrowding outside the ground before kick-off. In an attempt to ease pressure outside the ground, Police Chief Superintendent David Duckenfield, the senior police officer responsible for the match, ordered an exit gate to be opened. The opened exit gate led to a tunnel marked "Standing", which led directly to the two already overcrowded enclosures. In previous years the tunnel had been closed off by police when the two central pens were full; however, on this occasion the tunnel was unmanned.

The ensuing influx of supporters caused crushing, and some fans climbed over side fences or were lifted by fellow supporters onto the stand above to escape the crush. Moments after kick-off, a crush barrier broke, and fans began to fall on top of each other. The game was stopped after six minutes. To carry away the injured, supporters tore down advertising hoardings to use as stretchers and emergency services were called to provide assistance. Of the 96 people who died, only 14 had been admitted to a hospital. When the FA chairman visited the control box to find out what had happened, Duckenfield falsely claimed that the supporters had forced open a gate.

On the 20th anniversary of the disaster, government minister
Andy Burnham called for the police, ambulance and all other public agencies to release documents that had not been made available to Lord Justice Taylor in 1989. This led to the formation of the Hillsborough Independent Panel, which in September 2012 concluded that Liverpool fans were not responsible for the deaths and that attempts had been made by the authorities to conceal what happened, including the alteration by police of 116 statements relating to the disaster. The report prompted immediate apologies from Prime Minister David Cameron; the Chief Constable of South Yorkshire Police, David Crompton; Football Association chairman David Bernstein; and Kelvin MacKenzie, then-editor of The Sun, for their organisations' respective roles.

In September 2012, the Hillsborough Independent Panel concluded that up to 41 of the 96 fatalities might have been avoided had they received prompt medical treatment. The report revealed "multiple failures" by other emergency services and public bodies that contributed to the death toll. In response to the panel's report, the
Attorney General for England and Wales, Dominic Grieve MP, confirmed he would consider all the new evidence to evaluate whether the original inquest verdicts of accidental death could be overturned. On 19 December 2012, a new inquest was granted in the High court.

Hey, the government is here to protect you. We only have your best interest at heart. You can trust us.
 
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#5. The Hillsborough cover-up

The Hillsborough disaster was a human crush that caused the deaths of 96 people and injured 766 others, at a football match between Liverpool and Nottingham Forest at Hillsborough Stadium, Sheffield, England, on 15 April 1989. The 1990 official inquiry into the disaster, the Taylor Report, concluded that "the main reason for the disaster was the failure of police control." The findings of the report resulted in the elimination of standing terraces at all major football stadiums in England, Wales and Scotland. It remains the worst stadium-related disaster in English sports history, and one of the world's worst football disasters.

The match was the
1988–89 FA Cup semi-final, with Hillsborough, home ground of Sheffield Wednesday, selected as a neutral venue. Being the latter stage of a high profile competition, the game was broadcast on live television. In English football, fans are routinely segregated to avoid crowd trouble; at the time of the disaster fans had a reputation for hooliganism, which meant that terraces were additionally divided into pens, enclosed at the sides and front in fencing. The crush occurred in pens in the Leppings Lane stand, allocated to Liverpool fans. Entry was possible only via one of seven decrepit turnstiles, a restriction that led to dangerous overcrowding outside the ground before kick-off. In an attempt to ease pressure outside the ground, Police Chief Superintendent David Duckenfield, the senior police officer responsible for the match, ordered an exit gate to be opened. The opened exit gate led to a tunnel marked "Standing", which led directly to the two already overcrowded enclosures. In previous years the tunnel had been closed off by police when the two central pens were full; however, on this occasion the tunnel was unmanned.

The ensuing influx of supporters caused crushing, and some fans climbed over side fences or were lifted by fellow supporters onto the stand above to escape the crush. Moments after kick-off, a crush barrier broke, and fans began to fall on top of each other. The game was stopped after six minutes. To carry away the injured, supporters tore down advertising hoardings to use as stretchers and emergency services were called to provide assistance. Of the 96 people who died, only 14 had been admitted to a hospital. When the FA chairman visited the control box to find out what had happened, Duckenfield falsely claimed that the supporters had forced open a gate.

On the 20th anniversary of the disaster, government minister
Andy Burnham called for the police, ambulance and all other public agencies to release documents that had not been made available to Lord Justice Taylor in 1989. This led to the formation of the Hillsborough Independent Panel, which in September 2012 concluded that Liverpool fans were not responsible for the deaths and that attempts had been made by the authorities to conceal what happened, including the alteration by police of 116 statements relating to the disaster. The report prompted immediate apologies from Prime Minister David Cameron; the Chief Constable of South Yorkshire Police, David Crompton; Football Association chairman David Bernstein; and Kelvin MacKenzie, then-editor of The Sun, for their organisations' respective roles.

In September 2012, the Hillsborough Independent Panel concluded that up to 41 of the 96 fatalities might have been avoided had they received prompt medical treatment. The report revealed "multiple failures" by other emergency services and public bodies that contributed to the death toll. In response to the panel's report, the
Attorney General for England and Wales, Dominic Grieve MP, confirmed he would consider all the new evidence to evaluate whether the original inquest verdicts of accidental death could be overturned. On 19 December 2012, a new inquest was granted in the High court.

Hey, the government is here to protect you. We only have your best interest at heart. You can trust us.
I've always thought large groups of people were to be avoided.
 
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MK Ultra was pretty stupid when you read about it. Having people drop acid, take heroin or get stoned does obviously make them susceptible to suggestion, but whether it's lasting suggestion is pretty much in doubt based on everything we know about these drugs today.
Well it sounds stupid when taken out of the context of their operations but the fact of the matter is that people much more intelligent than you worked on shaping/controlling people's minds for almost 30 years. The likelihood of them figuring out ways to influence people's thinking is high imo. I can't imagine the sense in a government agency admitting to its populace that they can hack into people's minds.
 

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Well it sounds stupid when taken out of the context of their operations but the fact of the matter is that people much more intelligent than you worked on shaping/controlling people's minds for almost 30 years. The likelihood of them figuring out ways to influence people's thinking is high imo. I can't imagine the sense in a government agency admitting to its populace that they can hack into people's minds.
I'm convinced my little sister is a manchurian candidate who was programed from age 0 to 6 months by the North Koreans.
 

kneeblock

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Well it sounds stupid when taken out of the context of their operations but the fact of the matter is that people much more intelligent than you worked on shaping/controlling people's minds for almost 30 years. The likelihood of them figuring out ways to influence people's thinking is high imo. I can't imagine the sense in a government agency admitting to its populace that they can hack into people's minds.
By definition, any scientist from yesteryear who thinks dropping a few tabs of acid will make you into a government zombie is not smarter than either of us.
 
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By definition, any scientist from yesteryear who thinks dropping a few tabs of acid will make you into a government zombie is not smarter than either of us.
Maybe not... But I bet they're great at parties. :D
 
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By definition, any scientist from yesteryear who thinks dropping a few tabs of acid will make you into a government zombie is not smarter than either of us.
Well I suppose you would know better than me.
 

sparkuri

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What's that Devil's Breathe drug?
What I carry to the bar just in case I strike out.
I once got the whole pub to come home with me.





More to the point, I'm trying to think of serious conspiracy theories in modern times that turned out not to be true.
Pretty 99.99% positive WTC 1&2 as well as OKC were works.
We've got the Kennedy's, Tonkin, bay o pigs, mk, fluoride, monsanto, social engineering, manchurians....
If I were a psycho rich greedy fuck, I wouldn't leave much to chance.
Why wouldn't the current rich greedy fucks?
 

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Admitted false flags



1.
The Russian Parliament, current Russian president Putin and former Soviet leader Gorbachev all admit that Soviet leader Joseph Stalin ordered his secret police to execute 22,000 Polish army officers and civilians in 1940, and falsely blame it on the Nazis

.Russian parliament admits guilt over Polish massacre

2.The British government admits that – between 1946 and 1948 – it bombed 5 ships carrying Jews attempting to flee the Holocaust to seek safety in Palestine, set up a fake group called “Defenders of Arab Palestine”, and then had the psuedo-group falsely claim responsibility for the bombing.

Exclusive: WW2 Britain Blew Up Jewish Refugee Ships

3.In 1960, American Senator George Smathers suggested that the U.S. launch a false attack made on Guantanamo Bay which would give us the excuse of actually fomenting a fight which would then give us the excuse to go in and [overthrow Castro]“.

From the archive, 18 August 1970: Kennedy talked of possibility of killing Castro

4 The CIA admits that it hired Iranians in the 1950′s to pose as Communists and stage bombings in Iran in order to turn the country against its democratically-elected prime minister. New York Times Special Report: The C.I.A. in Iran

5 As admitted by the U.S. government, recently declassified documents show that in 1962, the American Joint Chiefs of Staff signed off on a plan to blow up American airplanes (using an elaborate plan involving the switching of airplanes), and also to commit terrorist acts on American soil, and then to blame it on the Cubans in order to justify an invasion of Cuba. See operations Nortwoods

6 The NSA admits that it lied about what really happened in the Gulf of Tonkin Incdient in 1964 … manipulating data to make it look like North Vietnamese boats fired on a U.S. ship so as to create a false justification for the Vietnam war.
Newly Declassified National Security Agency History Questions Early Vietnam War Communications Intelligence


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7 the British Prime Minister admitted to his defense secretary that he and American president Dwight Eisenhower approved a plan in 1957 to carry out attacks in Syria and blame it on the Syrian government as a way to effect regime change. 57 Years Ago: U.S. and Britain Approved Use of Islamic Extremists to Topple Syrian Government Washington's Blog

8. THE U.S. falsely blamed Iraq for playing a role in the 9/11 attacks – as shown by a memo from defense secretary– as one of the main justifications for launching the Iraq war. Even after the 9/11 Commission admitted that there was no connection, Dick Cheney said that the evidence is “overwhelming” that al Qaeda had a relationship with Saddam Hussein’s regime, that Cheney “probably” had information unavailable to the Commission, and that the media was not ‘doing their homework’ in reporting such ties. Top U.S. government officials now admit that the Iraq war was really launched for oil … not 9/11 or weapons of mass destruction.

U.S. Officials Guilty of War Crimes for Using 9/11 As a False Justification for the Iraq War Washington's Blog

Tenet Details Efforts to Justify Invading Iraq

Top REPUBLICAN Leaders Say Iraq War Was Really about Oil Washington's Blog

Where’s Our Missing $17bn? Iraq Demands Return of Oil Money ‘Stolen by US Institutions after 2003 Invasion’
 
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What I find disturbing about these revelations, is not that governments (and the usa takes the lead here) engage in such operations but that masses of people still think their governments are working in anyone's interests but those who are very very powerful and influential. If life becomes expendable to a group of people then unless you're in that group, yours is too.