Where did the Holly Holm PED accusation thread go?

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Hey bitches. This thread is either about Holly Holm and steroid use or a combination of the two or it goes away. Keep it that way.




Some people must think I'm joking.

I killed Community chitchat one time. I'm a wild man.
 

MMAHAWK

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I never really thought he did.

But them delts are hard to argue with. Come on it's Soviet Russia? It's legal and everything goes.





For me it comes down to cheating Not just steroid use. It was not cheating in Japan and he never tested positive in 7 fights were it would have been.

Also there is a big difference to me on using and abusing. He may have used to fight 5 times a year. While vitor and overeem abused to become super human.
 

teamquestnorth

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For me it comes down to cheating Not just steroid use. It was not cheating in Japan and he never tested positive in 7 fights were it would have been.

Also there is a big difference to me on using and abusing. He may have used to fight 5 times a year. While vitor and overeem abused to become super human.
Fedor was never tested in America
 

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Well that t That's right is gone so post what you thinkthink about Holly Holm in steroid accusations in general. I'm curious
What right is gone?

As for Holly, she has a large frame which gives her a muscular appearance, a square jaw which is a family trait, and has never tested positive. If she was using in the past, and has now stopped due to USADA testing, then it would be more realistic to look for her getting softer, rather than being extra jacked.

As far as beating the tests with undetectable drug programs go, while that definitely goes on, I think people over estimate at how affordable that is for many athletes. They aren't just paying for the drugs, but the monitoring, testing, and the advanced work which goes into creating those drugs. It just simply isn't affordable for your average MMA athlete, especially womens athletes that are scraping by.

Even Anderson Silva, who was making millions, tested positive for the run of the mill steroids, not designer stuff, because even though the barrier is high for buying these drugs, it is likely higher for meeting or knowing the people that can provide these programs. If you are facilitating drug cheating, on the scale of designer programs, you aren't heading to MMA gyms to just offer your services.

is it possible she is using/has used PEDs, of course, it is possible any athlete has, but without proof, more than a couple of pictures from a fight, it is extremely low brow to make these accusations, whether it is against Brazilians, Russians, or Americans.
 
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teamquestnorth

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Fedor was never tested in his career. Either was Anderson up until his very first time when he popped.
 

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all of our heros from the past were never tested in their primes. do you think chuck liddel would have passed a drug test for cocaine or randleman/coleman for steroids?vitor? overeem? the ufc never gave a shit about steroids in the past and only pretends to now because they are on tv and trying to give the impression that they are a real sport.they are more pissed that someone gets caught and makes them look bad than they are about cheating
 
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The more I think about it, the more reasonable it sounds that Fedor was on PED's.

Don't forget he comes from a country that will be barred from competing in this summer's Olympic games due to its widespread doping scandal.

Fedor is buddies with Putin. You know he's got access to the top-level shit.
 

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all of our heros from the past were never tested in their primes. do you think chuck liddel would have passed a drug test for cocaine or randleman/coleman for steroids?vitor? overeem? the ufc never gave a shit about steroids in the past and only pretends to now because they are on tv and trying to give the impression that they are a real sport.they are more pissed that someone gets caught and makes them look bad than they are about cheating
Bingo. The ONLY reason they're in bed with USADA now is because of the lawsuit and public shit storm they were receiving. They would let everyone juice if they could get away with it. Fuck, they hid Vitor in Brazil for years.
 

MMAHAWK

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That was in Affliction right? Money talks plus that was a co promotion with M1
So the cal athletic commission busts sherk and franca in the same ufc 73 title fight(think that was the event). But don't test Fedor.reaching dude.
 

teamquestnorth

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TBH, even though he was never tested in Strike force, I think he was actually clean in those fights. Noticeable BMI difference, very noticeable skill difference. I think the threat of a test is what prevented it. As soon as he went back to Russia the winning streak continued.

But who knows. I'd rather see a juiced Fedor smashing people anyway.
 

teamquestnorth

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So the cal athletic commission busts sherk and franca in the same ufc 73 title fight(think that was the event). But don't test Fedor.reaching dude.
I'm not a tin foil hat type of guy but it seems more than ironic that the main card was never tested. Russian Rubles talk loud.

Plus his protege on the undercard popped.

Seems pretty damning but who knows