National Average IQ Global Rankings
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Lol at she.
Well shim followed me around here for a few months rainbowing me while I had her on ignore. In my estimation only scorned women do that shit
Pretty sure he likes hugging nuts anyway
This perspective is a little to pessimistic and narrow in what the definition of a high IQ person is. Advances in genetics, IQ testing and knowledge of the brain has cleared things up recently. There are many tests that claim to be IQ tests but there are two categorizations of the matter which they test. One is fluid intelligence and the other is crystallized. Crystallized intelligence is the worst component to measure, since it can be taught. It is factual knowledge.
The Swedish MENSA IQ test for example, is just matrices. They are called "culture fair" IQ tests due to the fact that the test scores do not get altered much depending on the cultural background of the test taker. They require you to be able to solve problems using logic, spatial intelligence, and short term memory. The only times you read text is in the beginning of the test, where you read the instructions.
There is a relatively new field which seeks to answer the questions underlying intelligence, called cognitive genomics. They have already found that the same genes which were previously known to correlate with fluid intelligence, also have a correlation with academic achievement. Now before everyones balls explode and you start ranting, they are not based on particular people. They are measured on hundreds of thousands of people to make the results statistically feasible. So yes, being a hard worker is more important, because a lazy bum wont get a degree anyway, but among two equally hard working people, the one with a higher IQ will perform better.
Here are some links for those who are interested:
Molecular Psychiatry - Genome-wide association studies establish that human intelligence is highly heritable and polygenic
http://dare.ubvu.vu.nl/bitstream/ha...d=F46A80FD47CDCB5DC33D958FB4AB4232?sequence=5
So the research shows that high IQ people don't suffer from cognitive decline as normal people do, they live longer e.t.c. They end up in more professional jobs. The genetics research specifies what functions are better in intelligent people, and most of the candidate genes found are related to synaptic plasticity, short term memory, spatial reasoning e.t.c.
There is even an organization that is trying to make it explicitly concrete, which genes and TO WHICH DEGREE they influence intelligence:
BGI Cognitive Genomics
So what is a high IQ person? It is someone who is faster at reasoning things, memorizing, finding solutions to problems. The easiest area to find this is in maths, the natural sciences, computer science etc. Why? Because in business, martial arts e.t.c. there are many more factors of greater importance, so the relevance is not as high. Does it mean high IQ people suck at those? No, unless they lack the other factors. If they have the other factors, then obviously they would do even better with a higher IQ.
I believe that Leigh is talking about cultural biases. Australian aboriginal kids arent going to score as well as Japanese kid because the latters society values the attributes most IQs are looking for.
I think its a fair assessment
That is true, I am not against that argument either. In some cultures being intelligent won't help with anything. It would be logical that the probability of intelligent people to come from people like in this video which you posted (
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y15EiwjfiHs
) is extremely low.
UK No.2? Not bad for such a small island, though our curriculum fucking sucks and is years behind nordic nations.
We still have fucking royal family, surely that knocks of 30 IQ points.
We still have fucking royal family, surely that knocks of 30 IQ points.
For sure αδελφός, I used to think its genetics and a little bit environmental but now I think it's environmental and a little bit of genetics.
Got to feel for those kids they have very little chance in life although something tells me that UFC shirt may be a pretty smart guy in comparison with his peer group there. Thats the genetic component kicking in imho
Plus, If I can have a Phd from a leading british uni, any fucker can.
Plus IQ is a ridiculous out-dated approach to understanding intellectual potential. From social, to learning approaches and equality / privilege, there are far to many factors involved which can effect a populations capacity for learning.
Personally, I believe the education curriculum especially at ages 11-16 is stifling and archaic. The system aims to pump out brain dead slaves not original thinkers and creatives.
Plus IQ is a ridiculous out-dated approach to understanding intellectual potential. From social, to learning approaches and equality / privilege, there are far to many factors involved which can effect a populations capacity for learning.
Personally, I believe the education curriculum especially at ages 11-16 is stifling and archaic. The system aims to pump out brain dead slaves not original thinkers and creatives.
Indeed. Add that it has been like that for a couple of generations, and you have deteriorating genetics.
And addto it the that they are the owners of a country that has plenty of disposable income and ranks numbers two on the HDI and we have a shameful state of affairs.
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PHD in what mate?
My folks had me and my sister tested when we were kids.
I had an IQ of 156.
She had an IQ of 156.
She's got an MPhil in Chemistry and patents chemical formula for a living.
I got a 2:2 in social Anthropology from fucking Hull university.
Why the difference?
Work ethic.
Pure and simple.
I knew I could get by without ever doing a days work, she worked hard because she wanted to learn more.
She can't skin up for shit though.
I had an IQ of 156.
She had an IQ of 156.
She's got an MPhil in Chemistry and patents chemical formula for a living.
I got a 2:2 in social Anthropology from fucking Hull university.
Why the difference?
Work ethic.
Pure and simple.
I knew I could get by without ever doing a days work, she worked hard because she wanted to learn more.
She can't skin up for shit though.
WOW youre a genius, Im not worthy of talking to you!
I'm not sure what part of my comment you disagree with. Yes a high IQ is beneficial but by itself it is pretty limited. And many tests don't measure it correctly.
It's like athletic ability in fighting. Certainly helps but without development you won't get far.
My IQ is around 135, which correlates quite well with my academic achievements. My personality certainly had quite a dramatic effect though - as a kid, I couldn't be bothered and dropped out of uni. My higher IQ brother did the same. I eventually went back, he didn't.
I didn't disagree with anything actually
Just wanted to point out that if you use the proper definitions of IQ you don't have that nonsense about being able to raise your score, being a high scorer but not a good learner etc. You can quantify learning ability as long as you stick to the correct definitions of things, and are measuring the correct things. It's just a shame that people have come to the point where they think most of it is bogus because many people got high scores on shitty tests.
I scored "135 or higher" on mensas test. I think it was Ravens Advanced Progressive Matrices but I'm not sure.
On another note I dropped out of university too, just because I found other full time opportunities. I worked part time during my studies and thought why not just get that degree. Well that degree (teaching degree) can go f itself now that I have money 
Well, by definition, IQ is exactly a description of how intelligent you are but as agreed, there are a lot of shitty tests and IQ by itself is not an indicator of success.I didn't disagree with anything actually
Just wanted to point out that if you use the proper definitions of IQ you don't have that nonsense about being able to raise your score, being a high scorer but not a good learner etc. You can quantify learning ability as long as you stick to the correct definitions of things, and are measuring the correct things. It's just a shame that people have come to the point where they think most of it is bogus because many people got high scores on shitty tests.
I scored "135 or higher" on mensas test. I think it was Ravens Advanced Progressive Matrices but I'm not sure.
You guys are just organising the information differently. Neither of you have come to any real conclusion. A @Anastasios
Not sure where you got the info that nordic nations curriculum being good. It is shit that has been watered down since the 90s. I would never, ever, in my life, allow my children to attend a Swedish curriculum school. Cringeworthy stuff.
Sweden has a royal family too
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Holy shit I used to live in that town. I've been to that very place a few times. Mungullah community on the outskirts of Carnarvon. I was always with people who were known and respected. Would've NEVER gone there otherwise hahaha