South Carolina Dem Primary

[Bryant Maness]

Exit polls have a bigger black vote turnout than 2008.. Results to come soon.

SC is just about a given for Clinton, but what's the best outcome for Sanders?

I say anything less than 10% should make her scared for Super Tuesday.

 

[SC MMA MD]

Sanders may do better here than you expect. Here in the Upstate he seems to have a very active campaign, and based on the highly unscientific poll of Facebook comments from the democratic side of my friends he has pretty good support.

 

[Bryant Maness]

I hope so. I realllllllly hope so. Fingers and toes are crossed.

 

[Bryant Maness]

lol.. 80-20 right now.

 

[Lord Vutulaki]

Can someone explain this "Black/white/latino/asian" vote shit to me, do people of the same race mainly vote along the same lines there?

Thats kinda fucked up imho

 

[Bryant Maness]

South is chock full of black voters. And they are the biggest key to winning a democratic race in the south. Because democrats are the only ones who really try to work for them with education access and voting rights and whatnot. Clinton winning the black vote is still amazing, but they only like her because they loved Bill, and he shipped a ton of them off to prison. Ridiculous.

 

[Lord Vutulaki]

Voting rights???

 

[Bryant Maness]

Yup. Voting Rights Act of 1965, has to be renewed every so often and Republicans always try to shoot it down.

 

[KWingJitsu]

Can someone explain this "Black/white/latino/asian" vote shit to me, do people of the same race mainly vote along the same lines there?

Thats kinda fucked up imho

Nope. Some simplistic people will tell you that. But it's not that simple.

I am still earnings a lot about American history, but it comes down to income levels and historical precedent.
Segregation from the past still has a trickle down effect.

But for the most part, economic lines tend to be divided "mostly" along racial lines in some parts of the country, but particularly so in the south... which is where slavery, segregation etc was at its peak.

 

[Lord Vutulaki]

Yup. Voting Rights Act of 1965, has to be renewed every so often and Republicans always try to shoot it down.

Thanks mate can you please explain what this is getting at?

"A core special provision is the Section 5 preclearance requirement, which prohibits certain jurisdictions from implementing any change affecting voting without receiving preapproval"

 

[Lord Vutulaki]

Nope. Some simplistic people will tell you that. But it's not that simple.

I am still earnings a lot about American history, but it comes down to income levels and historical precedent.
Segregation from the past still has a trickle down effect.

But for the most part, economic lines tend to be divided "mostly" along racial lines in some parts of the country, but particularly so in the south... which is where slavery, segregation etc was at its peak.

Okay than you for explaining that to me.

So if we purely cut across socioeconomic divides would upper working to upper middle class black people be voting right or left?

 

[Bryant Maness]

Thanks mate can you please explain what this is getting at?

"A core special provision is the Section 5 preclearance requirement, which prohibits certain jurisdictions from implementing any change affecting voting without receiving preapproval"

You'd have to look at the circumstances surrounding the politician who pushed that into the act.

 

[KWingJitsu]

Okay than you for explaining that to me.

So if we purely cut across socioeconomic divides would upper working to upper middle class black people be voting right or left?

I think you'd find the gap would be closer among upper & middle class, but still with a slight majority voting "left" than "right" (lol, God I hate those terms). But not too different from latinos. I think wealthier latinos can be found voting "right" at higher socio-economic levels than the poorer ones.

Used to be overwhelmingly so with Asians, since by and large they tend to me more successful... but I read recently that's beginning to change with their reaction to the right's increasing rhetoric against "immigrants".

 

[Bryant Maness]

I hate politics. I love politics. I hate politics. I love politics.

It's all useless really. The system is dramatically screwed up and rigged. To the point where either we get a political revolution now, or there is a good chance that the US will go through some very terrible domestic struggles in the next 5-10 years. And I don't have much faith in the former happening. Tuesday will be important.

 

[Lord Vutulaki]

You'd have to look at the circumstances surrounding the politician who pushed that into the act.

All im coming up with is that he used the mandate of his huge victory to get the act passed. And that poor blacks were made to recite the constitution in order to vote or told they had the date wrong.

That's fucked.

 

[Lord Vutulaki]

I think you'd find the gap would be closer among upper & middle class, but still with a slight majority voting "left" than "right" (lol, God I hate those terms). But not too different from latinos. I think wealthier latinos can be found voting "right" at higher socio-economic levels than the poorer ones.

Used to be overwhelmingly so with Asians, since by and large they tend to me more successful... but I read recently that's beginning to change with their reaction to the right's increasing rhetoric against "immigrants".

Makes sense. Here in Australia its all about socioeconomic status not ethnicity. SE status is the cause and ethnicity can be a taken as a correlation depending on a particular ethnicity's general SE status.

"My people " tend to vote conservative and we were some of the first post white Australia migrants who suffered plenty of discrimination in the late 70's and 80s but NOTHING like you guys.

Hope it all works out for you its all a damn shame given you are the so called leaders of the free world.

 

[member 3289]

Sanders did not invest much into the state because he didn't think it was very winnable.

I honestly don't see how Sanders wins the primary, but who knows.