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Splinty said:
The guy was given a lot of education and made a large majority of his estimated 4 billion himself. It's pretty disingenuous to imply he just inherited everything. (Rating: Pants on Fire! ;) )
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That's not what I meant, I'm saying he would have no reason to be cowed in any room, unless you think being born a billionaire has no effect on a persons development.

Splinty said:
It doesn't have anything to do with just giving no fucks. Every other rich politician cares. The entire thing is prim and proper. A sterile Romney level facade gee wilikers! For years we talk about how we hate the whole thing. How the entire system is two parties with two sides of the same coin. Then we get a year of Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump just giving a big middle finger to everything and running a very populist message from either end of the spectrum. It couldn't be a more excited election year. And the GOP itself has the possibility of imploding and fracturing into new parties if they dare undermine Trump at the convention.
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Yes it's great to see honestly it is, these rogues are gold. I hope more comes of it.

Splinty said:
If Cruz or Hillary gave no fucks tomorrow, it would change nothing.
Bernie has forced Hillary to acknowledge certain populist positions. Trump might become president or single handedly break the modern two party system.

There's a lot more here than just not caring.
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Yup, two big dangly pairs of balls and the aforementioned extended fingers.:)
 
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Sweets said:
being born a billionaire has no effect on a persons development.
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Wasn't born a billionaire, that's my point. While 2/3rds of 1st generation inheritances are squandered, Trump made a million dollars into 10 times that, then took ~35 million inheritance and turned that into 4 billion.

I'm not saying the guy wasn't given a great start. But a great majority that are in the same position (again, at least 2/3rds) will be broke and have nothing for their own kids. And he was already getting rich off his business dealings long before his father died.
 
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Wasn't born a billionaire, that's my point. While 2/3rds of 1st generation inheritances are squandered, Trump made a million dollars into 10 times that, then took ~35 million inheritance and turned that into 4 billion.

I'm not saying the guy wasn't given a great start. But a great majority that are in the same position (again, at least 2/3rds) will be broke and have nothing for their own kids. And he was already getting rich off his business dealings long before his father died
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I'm definitely not trying to lessen his achievements. I just doubt he'll get much of what he says done.
 
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Splinty said:
Then we get a year of Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump just giving a big middle finger to everything and running a very populist message from either end of the spectrum.
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But Bernie doesn't do it with the same charisma. He sounds and looks like an old professor giving a lecture in college. That's a major factor why he will not beat Hillary. If only he had your ravishing good looks.
 
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Sweets said:
I realise he's a loudmouth comedian but this has a strong ring of truth and is in no way unusual in the industry.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owgPCYGxjfE
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The New York concrete mob is well known. No doubt Trump was paying his dues to be part of the construction boom.
Do I blame Trump or the city that let the shakedown happen?

As for the rest, I'm sure a mom and pop would be happy to come out and smear him. Where are they?
 
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Sweets said:
I just doubt he'll get much of what he says done.
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Lack of nation building? Trade Treaty restructuring? New Tax plan?

Those are near the top of my list of things that matter. I can't see how those would be tough.

I actually think the wall is going to be an issue.
A double fence with razor wire (see europe) is much more affordable and I would guess that's what ends up happening.
 
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Lack of nation building? Trade Treaty restructuring? New Tax plan?

Those are near the top of my list of things that matter. I can't see how those would be tough.

I actually think the wall is going to be an issue.
A double fence with razor wire (see europe) is much more affordable and I would guess that's what ends up happening.
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We'll see how cooperative the houses are, I'm gonna go with, not very, till it's proven otherwise. Unless he plans keeping a stack of blank executive orders handy, if that will work.
 
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I really can't wait to see the presidential debate in which the most powerful nation on earth argues over the definition of a fence vs a wall.
 
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I'm so excited for the Donald/Hillary debates. I can see him never referring to her by real name and instead calling her the "wall street hooker".
 
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Sweets said:
What's his trade proposals?
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Free Trade Zones such as NAFTA and the TPP with significantly poorer countries are bad and force a race for the bottom for human labor costs.
The TPP in particular trades things like our drug patent enforcement for cheap manufacturing. The average American does not get to share greatly in these deals. It will continue to only enrich those near the top. Bizarrely, Obama has been a staunch supporter of these kinds of moves and using ICE to implement patent infringement for niche brands like Louis Vouton.... but there's a bigger conversation there about how we are wrecking out control of the internet doing that too.

Short of it, there's minimal back and forth for the average American, though the deals will likely continue to grow our stock market and economy at large. Expect to see a continue increase in the rich/poor gap.
 
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Splinty said:
Free Trade Zones such as NAFTA and the TPP with significantly poorer countries are bad and force a race for the bottom for human labor costs.
The TPP in particular trades things like our drug patent enforcement for cheap manufacturing. The average American does not get to share greatly in these deals. It will continue to only enrich those near the top. Bizarrely, Obama has been a staunch supporter of these kinds of moves and using ICE to implement patent infringement for niche brands like Louis Vouton.... but there's a bigger conversation there about how we are wrecking out control of the internet doing that too.

Short of it, there's minimal back and forth for the average American, though the deals will likely continue to grow our stock market and economy at large. Expect to see a continue increase in the rich/poor gap.
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He plans on pulling out of TTP/NAFTA? That alone is enough.
 
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Sweets said:
He plans on pulling out of TTP/NAFTA? That alone is enough.
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Correct. Hates them. Believes they have been used to abuse the human labor of the poor country and put middle class workers out of work in the richer country.

He agrees, there's probably some fair deals to make for free trade when discussing countries with similar costs of living. But he has also highlighted instances where the loss in tariffs don't seem to be made up with an improved trading for Americans.
 
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Splinty said:
Correct. Hates them. Believes they have been used to abuse the human labor of the poor country and put middle class workers out of work in the richer country.

He agrees, there's probably some fair deals to make for free trade when discussing countries with similar costs of living. But he has also highlighted instances where the loss in tariffs don't seem to be made up with an improved trading for Americans.
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Excellent I really hope he can do it. Those treaties are a threat to the idea of national sovereignty.
 
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Just going to point out that after years of our jealousy over hot European royalty and female politicians, we are about to step up our First Lady game Europe:

 
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