Biology says Bellator has a legitimate shot at signing UFC’s Rory MacDonald

[Ted Williams' head]

If it was just this single post and not a continued history of you going into one after another bellton thread and naysaying, i'd say you had a damn good point. But it's not, you have, and i don't feel you do.

The truth is the truth and a good point is a good point, regardless of who's saying it. So what you're saying doesn't really make sense :/

When you start denying facts and getting angry when people state the the indisputable, you start looking silly. The UFC is the biggest MMA organization in the world right now. SHILL! UFC NUT HUGGER! I don't know what you haters want me to say lol.

Bellator is the most profitable MMA organization in the world. The UFC is on the brink of going bankrupt. Every UFC fight is itching to jump ship and go to Bellator. In 5 years the UFC will be gone and Dana White will be selling used cars. Bellator, WSOF and Rizin will be the main orgs. No fighter will be tied to an organization, they'll jump among those three freely. Every fighter will be treated 100% fairly, because Dana and Zuffa are evil and every other promoter is in the MMA business strictly for the benefit of the fighters.

Happy? lol. Some of yall some "blue pill swallowin" ma fackas haha

 

[Punch]

The truth is the truth and a good point is a good point, regardless of who's saying it. So what you're saying doesn't really make sense :/

When you start denying facts and getting angry when people state the the indisputable, you start looking silly. The UFC is the biggest MMA organization in the world right now. SHILL! UFC NUT HUGGER! I don't know what you haters want me to say lol.

Bellator is the most profitable MMA organization in the world. The UFC is on the brink of going bankrupt. Every UFC fight is itching to jump ship and go to Bellator. In 5 years the UFC will be gone and Dana White will be selling used cars. Bellator, WSOF and Rizin will be the main orgs. No fighter will be tied to an organization, they'll jump among those three freely. Every fighter will be treated 100% fairly, because Dana and Zuffa are evil and every other promoter is in the MMA business strictly for the benefit of the fighters.

Happy? lol

No. I'm not happy, or mad about what you're posting Danny. It doesn't affect me emotionally one way or the other. Mentally, I may differ in opinion but I don't think opinion is right or wrong. It's just how we think. You seem to like the ufc more than all of mma to me. That's a completely valid standpoint I don't share. I'm gonna bust your balls a little about it, just like I would expect you to bust my balls back about mine. I realize now maybe I went a little too hard. My b yo.

 

[TheFifthScallop]

If Bellator can offer a good chunk of money along with having your own sponsors, I'll bet Zuffa won't match. Can Rory headline a PPV and generate big numbers? From the eyes of the hardcore fan base yes, to the rest of the market, no.

His fighting style alone should be selling huge numbers, but his quiet, calm, and respectful(martial artist) attitude doesn't sell fights. We've seen that now in the Mcgregor era, where more people are talking shit to try and hype their fights. Rory isn't that fighter.

So what does Zuffa do? Match an offer from Viacom that would likely be mid six figures plus guaranteed sponsor money, or do they let him go? It's very plausible that they do let him go.

 

[Clappin'Daddys]

read the article, but it didnt really say how bellator would do this from a business standpoint.

ive stated this before, but one thing that bellator has riding for them is the fact that they are on such a shit network. nothing but cops, csi, bar rescue, and gangland. im sure spike would be more than happy to give more air time to bellator once bellator really starts taking off in terms of ratings.

there is no way in hell bellator could compete with the ufc in a sheer monetary value, but bellator could offer things like co promoting, a special on the fighter they are trying to sign(the way they did with benson), and lets not forget the fact that the fighters can go out and get as many sponsors as they can.

we dont know how much more airtime the ufc could get in fox. maybe offer specials on fightpass? even then, how many subscribers are on fightpass?


at the end of the day, rory wont go easily. there is probably an 80% chance they will keep rory... rory is far too valuable.

 

[Punch]

read the article, but it didnt really say how bellator would do this from a business standpoint.

ive stated this before, but one thing that bellator has riding for them is the fact that they are on such a shit network. nothing but cops, csi, bar rescue, and gangland. im sure spike would be more than happy to give more air time to bellator once bellator really starts taking off in terms of ratings.

there is no way in hell bellator could compete with the ufc in a sheer monetary value, but bellator could offer things like co promoting, a special on the fighter they are trying to sign(the way they did with benson), and lets not forget the fact that the fighters can go out and get as many sponsors as they can.

we dont know how much more airtime the ufc could get in fox. maybe offer specials on fightpass? even then, how many subscribers are on fightpass?


at the end of the day, rory wont go easily. there is probably an 80% chance they will keep rory... rory is far too valuable.

Good post homie. He really is worth more, I agree.

 

[salamx1976]

With all the mismatching rematching and hopping over top contenders going on in the UFC it's no guarantee that Rory would get another title shot at least not for the foreseeable future and when you feel that you've been fighting your ass off and you're only making 56K a fight and other guys are getting 500 K a fight on short notice One might feel underpaid and disrespected by the lack of UFC's willing to negotiate a new contract . In this seemingly new era of the UFC trash talking and showmanship get you paid and get you fights and possibly rightfully so which these two attributes Rory lacks. There's no doubt that Rory is among the most elite fighters but if UFC doesn't see the return on their investment and they can use those resources elsewhere they might actually let him go . Which to me would be a huge loss for the UFC, a great talent with many years left to fight. Rory seems to be a smart guy and in several years when he sets down his gloves I don't think he wants to check his bank account to see he's only made a few hundred grand for putting on wars and putting his health at risk. It's easy for us fans to say fighter should do this or do that but at the end of their career and it's all they've known is fighting and they have no other outlet for income they need to be smart now and make as much money and hold onto as much money as possible for their eventual retirement which in the fight game can come at any time with the critical injury. So kudos to all the fighters who are trying to maximize their profits for putting their health on the line for the entertainment of us all .

 

[Punch]

With all the mismatching rematching and hopping over top contenders going on in the UFC it's no guarantee that Rory would get another title shot at least not for the foreseeable future and when you feel that you've been fighting your ass off and you're only making 56K a fight and other guys are getting 500 K a fight on short notice One might feel underpaid and disrespected by the lack of UFC's willing to negotiate a new contract . In this seemingly new era of the UFC trash talking and showmanship get you paid and get you fights and possibly rightfully so which these two attributes Rory lacks. There's no doubt that Rory is among the most elite fighters but if UFC doesn't see the return on their investment and they can use those resources elsewhere they might actually let him go . Which to me would be a huge loss for the UFC, a great talent with many years left to fight. Rory seems to be a smart guy and in several years when he sets down his gloves I don't think he wants to check his bank account to see he's only made a few hundred grand for putting on wars and putting his health at risk. It's easy for us fans to say fighter should do this or do that but at the end of their career and it's all they've known is fighting and they have no other outlet for income they need to be smart now and make as much money and hold onto as much money as possible for their eventual retirement which in the fight game can come at any time with the critical injury. So kudos to all the fighters who are trying to maximize their profits for putting their health on the line for the entertainment of us all .

Good post homie.

 

[Limpy]

With all the mismatching rematching and hopping over top contenders going on in the UFC it's no guarantee that Rory would get another title shot at least not for the foreseeable future and when you feel that you've been fighting your ass off and you're only making 56K a fight and other guys are getting 500 K a fight on short notice One might feel underpaid and disrespected by the lack of UFC's willing to negotiate a new contract . In this seemingly new era of the UFC trash talking and showmanship get you paid and get you fights and possibly rightfully so which these two attributes Rory lacks. There's no doubt that Rory is among the most elite fighters but if UFC doesn't see the return on their investment and they can use those resources elsewhere they might actually let him go . Which to me would be a huge loss for the UFC, a great talent with many years left to fight. Rory seems to be a smart guy and in several years when he sets down his gloves I don't think he wants to check his bank account to see he's only made a few hundred grand for putting on wars and putting his health at risk. It's easy for us fans to say fighter should do this or do that but at the end of their career and it's all they've known is fighting and they have no other outlet for income they need to be smart now and make as much money and hold onto as much money as possible for their eventual retirement which in the fight game can come at any time with the critical injury. So kudos to all the fighters who are trying to maximize their profits for putting their health on the line for the entertainment of us all .

Good post

 

[Limpy]

Wow, forgot Rory was so young, I figured he was closer to 30.

I hope Rory sticks around in the UFC. He's still capable of becoming champion, and as much as people here hate the UFC and Zuffa, it's still the #1 organization and the one that matters most. You can't be the #1 in the world at any weight fighting outside of the UFC.

Bellator is great for a guy like Benson, who's "been there, done that", had his day in the sun, is still a great fighter but is likely on the downside of his career. I think it's a waste for a 26 year old who still likely has his best days ahead of him.

I totally agree with you when you say he could be a waste in Bellator considering that his best days are ahead of him. If Zuffa doesn't start looking after ALL of their superstars I could see even more thinking about jumping ship. Add in the Reebok deal and even more could leave.

Rory is not a talker, we all know that. It's a detriment to himself because if he talked like some other fighters he would be making much more money. That's a sad truth.

I really like Rory a lot. He grew up not far from where I did so I instantly liked him when I heard about this 17 year old kid beating up men. He will be the champ somewhere one day no doubt. Will it be in the UFC? That remains to be seen but I do hope so, I also hope he gets paid. When Dana is shitting his pants over his fight with Robbie then he should not just give him a bonus, look after the fighters that look after you. There are people I know that casually watch MMA and they still to this day talk about that fight. That means something.

 

[Clappin'Daddys]

With all the mismatching rematching and hopping over top contenders going on in the UFC it's no guarantee that Rory would get another title shot at least not for the foreseeable future and when you feel that you've been fighting your ass off and you're only making 56K a fight and other guys are getting 500 K a fight on short notice One might feel underpaid and disrespected by the lack of UFC's willing to negotiate a new contract . In this seemingly new era of the UFC trash talking and showmanship get you paid and get you fights and possibly rightfully so which these two attributes Rory lacks. There's no doubt that Rory is among the most elite fighters but if UFC doesn't see the return on their investment and they can use those resources elsewhere they might actually let him go . Which to me would be a huge loss for the UFC, a great talent with many years left to fight. Rory seems to be a smart guy and in several years when he sets down his gloves I don't think he wants to check his bank account to see he's only made a few hundred grand for putting on wars and putting his health at risk. It's easy for us fans to say fighter should do this or do that but at the end of their career and it's all they've known is fighting and they have no other outlet for income they need to be smart now and make as much money and hold onto as much money as possible for their eventual retirement which in the fight game can come at any time with the critical injury. So kudos to all the fighters who are trying to maximize their profits for putting their health on the line for the entertainment of us all .

Very true. I'm sure Rory reevaluated his situation after that Robbie war. He probably looked at how much that fight took out of him vs. how he was compensated for it. Wasn't with it by the looks of it.

Fighters have to be smart. Look at the short term and long term gains. Weight out the options and then act.


I think fighters are just starting to realize that being in the UFC isn't the be all end all. Gotta follow the money and more valuable contrActs.

I'm sure guys like fortune, Ruth, and pico signed with bellator because there seems to be much more freedom now that Coker is in charge.

 

[RaginCajun]

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Bellator is the most profitable MMA organization in the world. The UFC is on the brink of going bankrupt. Every UFC fight is itching to jump ship and go to Bellator. In 5 years the UFC will be gone and Dana White will be selling used cars. Bellator, WSOF and Rizin will be the main orgs. No fighter will be tied to an organization, they'll jump among those three freely. Every fighter will be treated 100% fairly, because Dana and Zuffa are evil and every other promoter is in the MMA business strictly for the benefit of the fighters.
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In all seriousness though, Rory is still young and talented. The UFC will probably match the offers and keep him. I think he wants to stay in the UFC and become champion. He seems extremely focused on his goals and it is probably not his goal to leave the UFC and rule as the champion in what most people feel is a lower organization. The UFC is much more known to the general public. I have talked to many newer fans that have no idea that Pride or other promotions existed.

 

[tang]

Wow, forgot Rory was so young, I figured he was closer to 30.

I hope Rory sticks around in the UFC. He's still capable of becoming champion, and as much as people here hate the UFC and Zuffa, it's still the #1 organization and the one that matters most. You can't be the #1 in the world at any weight fighting outside of the UFC.

Bellator is great for a guy like Benson, who's "been there, done that", had his day in the sun, is still a great fighter but is likely on the downside of his career. I think it's a waste for a 26 year old who still likely has his best days ahead of him.

i do agree he's young enough to go on a championship run but he could be the dominating figure in Bellator without taking brain damage from top tier fighters and make more money so he can go build his Cabin in the Woods. what is UFC or anyone going to say? Rory MacDonald is not legit, he hasn't fought anyone? even though Rory haven't won a title ( and I can see him being the dominating one if he did) he has absolutely zero to proove.

 

[WoodenPupa]

Very true. I'm sure Rory reevaluated his situation after that Robbie war. He probably looked at how much that fight took out of him vs. how he was compensated for it. Wasn't with it by the looks of it.

Truth. That was a brutal fight, hard to watch. Rory deserves serious coin for that performance.

 

[Narcosynthesis]

I wonder how much the Lawler fight took out of him. Maybe he's thinking he'll never be the champion if he stays in the UFC. Bellator is looking pretty good from that perspective. Rory is one of my favorites and I hope he stays with the UFC where the best are. If not, I'll still try to watch his fights.

 

[Wimpiam]

I wonder how much the Lawler fight took out of him. Maybe he's thinking he'll never be the champion if he stays in the UFC. Bellator is looking pretty good from that perspective. Rory is one of my favorites and I hope he stays with the UFC where the best are. If not, I'll still try to watch his fights.

I certainly hope that's not how people judge it if he does go to bellator. I doubt that he would migrate over to be champion, I'd hope it was a deeper meaning, or more money.

 

[Severianb]

Yeah, it would be horrible if he left. But he still should pick whatever is best for him financially. I think the UFC will match whatever Bellator will offer him, since he's so young and he's clearly a top tier fighter

Are you kidding? It would be awesome if he was the first of a whole phalanx of awesome fighters who left.

The UFC needs some serious competition, they are acting like a bunch of bullying assholes.

The firing of Stitch was the last straw for me. Fuck Zuffa. Fuck Dana. Fuck Reebok. (Actually, I'm happy about the fallout of the Reebok deal, because it allows fighters to move to Bellator thanks to sponsorship money)

 

[kneeblock]

Koreshkov's victory over Bendo has suddenly made Bellator's WW division look more challenging. I could see Rory vs. Koreshkov being a good fight and building from there.

 

[stielar]

I thought Cindy O didn't post anymore?

Cindy O was more subtle than this, I think he is Dana.