General Why did you guys ban Anastasios? ??

Welcome to our Community
Wanting to join the rest of our members? Feel free to Sign Up today.
Sign up
Status
Not open for further replies.

Lord Vutulaki

Banned
Jan 16, 2015
16,651
5,934
I know he said nukka but dudes a greek malaka from Sweden with a darkie girlfriend ffs he's not a racist.
Fill me in here what's this all about?
 
Apr 3, 2015
6,783
8,876
I must have missed that whole thing lol. who got banned? for what?

saying the "n" word?

like full on with the "'er" and everything?
 

Robbie Hart

All Biden Voters Are Mindless Sheep
Feb 13, 2015
51,453
51,700
Didn't know this happened? But there is usually a very strong case as I've never even been warned about my very stupid comments and I have toed the line, accidentally many times, and still haven't been threatened.....something deeper must be at play......
 
Apr 3, 2015
6,783
8,876
while I subscribe to the theory that its just a word and however you take it is very telling of you as a person, I can see how it could be ban worthy.
 

Mix6APlix

The more you cry, the less I care.
Oct 20, 2015
12,918
13,405
Just more placating to the double standard that black America demands.

Seriously though, I know nothing about this.
 

Lord Vutulaki

Banned
Jan 16, 2015
16,651
5,934
Man the rest of the world isn't very sensitive to the world just because we don't have a history around it. To us its just a word we hear in hip hop.

Im not saying that we should say it but there's a cultural misunderstanding here.
 

Mix6APlix

The more you cry, the less I care.
Oct 20, 2015
12,918
13,405
That's the bullshit Vutulaki. Black Americans still cry about the slavery in America while ignoring the fact that there were 1000s of Irish slaves, not to mention that it was their own people who sold them into slavery, not to mention there is black on black slavery as I type this in Somalia, Nigeria, Sierra Leone, The Congo and many other places. But none of that matters. It just matters when it involved a white guy so they can play the race card.
 

Lord Vutulaki

Banned
Jan 16, 2015
16,651
5,934
That's the bullshit Vutulaki. Black Americans still cry about the slavery in America while ignoring the fact that there were 1000s of Irish slaves, not to mention that it was their own people who sold them into slavery, not to mention there is black on black slavery as I type this in Somalia, Nigeria, Sierra Leone, The Congo and many other places. But none of that matters. It just matters when it involved a white guy so they can play the race card.
Im not going there bro. I'm just saying that the man wasn't trying to be racist just joking around. I have a lot of respect for African Americans, every single one ive met irl has been cool with me.
 

La Paix

Fuck this place
First 100
Jan 14, 2015
38,273
64,363
@Vutulaki I banned him. He started a thread and used nigger twice. I edited his thread and said if he used it again he'd get banned. He used it in his next post so he got a ban.

I don't recognize him so there's nothing deeper than that. If some cultures use nigger like it's no big deal then that's news to me, I thought it was pretty offensive by almost everyone. I also had multiple reports from both posts. What am I missing here?
 

Lord Vutulaki

Banned
Jan 16, 2015
16,651
5,934
@Vutulaki I banned him. He started a thread and used nigger twice. I edited his thread and said if he used it again he'd get banned. He used it in his next lost so he got a ban.

I don't recognize him so there's nothing deeper than that. If some cultures use nigger like it's no big deal then that's news to me, I thought it was pretty offensive by almost everyone. I also had multiple reports from both posts. What am I missing here?
We arent as race sensitive in other parts of the world, Sweden for example doesnt have a history of slavery just like we dont have here either, major fishing magazines in Australia refer to Luderick or Blackfish as niggers or lizards for example and no African Australian I know gives a fuck granted they again dont have a history of being enslaved. I appreciate the transparency here unlike the other site where mods would have been silent on this thread, its one of the reasons I post here (the other being that Im banned everywhere else) but could you consider reducing the ban to a freeze?

If I thought he was a racist for a second Id be with you all the way on the permaban but he simply is not a racist just that he was raised in a society that doesnt have a history with that particular word. Thanks again for explaining your position.
 

Team Bisping

TMMAC Addict
First 100
Jan 16, 2015
6,487
10,428
Didn't know this happened? But there is usually a very strong case as I've never even been warned about my very stupid comments and I have toed the line, accidentally many times, and still haven't been threatened.....something deeper must be at play......
reported
 

La Paix

Fuck this place
First 100
Jan 14, 2015
38,273
64,363
We arent as race sensitive in other parts of the world, Sweden for example doesnt have a history of slavery just like we dont have here either, major fishing magazines in Australia refer to Luderick or Blackfish as niggers or lizards for example and no African Australian I know gives a fuck granted they again dont have a history of being enslaved. I appreciate the transparency here unlike the other site where mods would have been silent on this thread, its one of the reasons I post here (the other being that Im banned everywhere else) but could you consider reducing the ban to a freeze?

If I thought he was a racist for a second Id be with you all the way on the permaban but he simply is not a racist just that he was raised in a society that doesnt have a history with that particular word. Thanks again for explaining your position.
There's a chance he didn't see my edit and warning of a future ban but I feel that's unlikely. To be honest I thought he was testing and that his second post has him being cheeky doing it again and that's why I banned. I'm open to unbanning if what you're telling me is the reality of what happened but I'd like to not see nigger again and hope he can see why members would report something like that.

Thanks for the reply and insight Vutu.
 

Nemo?

Too weird to live, too rare to die.
Dec 2, 2015
4,716
7,887
The word is based on context always....I rarely use it, as in I can count on one hand each time I say in a year...
That's the bullshit Vutulaki. Black Americans still cry about the slavery in America while ignoring the fact that there were 1000s of Irish slaves, not to mention that it was their own people who sold them into slavery, not to mention there is black on black slavery as I type this in Somalia, Nigeria, Sierra Leone, The Congo and many other places. But none of that matters. It just matters when it involved a white guy so they can play the race card.
Im black, american, and irish so fuck you bro

 

Lord Vutulaki

Banned
Jan 16, 2015
16,651
5,934
There's a chance he didn't see my edit and warning of a future ban but I feel that's unlikely. To be honest I thought he was testing and that his second post has him being cheeky doing it again and that's why I banned. I'm open to unbanning if what you're telling me is the reality of what happened but I'd like to not see nigger again and hope he can see why members would report something like that.

Thanks for the reply and insight Vutu.
Nah man thank you for being open and honest, Ill have a chat with him and come back to you but for sure 100% the dude isnt racist, like me he can tend to ramble along his own tangent sometimes...
 

Limpy

Banned
Oct 20, 2015
14,842
27,793
I don't care where you are raised, you use that word on a daily basis then you are a piece of shit. I read the thread he made and he was using it in a derogatory fashion, no doubt. I don't care for a second that he was supposedly raised in a place that doesn't have a history with the word. I live in a small town with very few non-white people, we don't have a history with that word either but it doesn't give us the right to use it to describe a black person.

Kelly banned him not for using it the first two times, he warned him about it and he did it again. He knew exactly what he was doing and what he was originally warned for. That dude is a piece of shit for doing that and good riddance, we don't need that kind of shit around here.
 

Lord Vutulaki

Banned
Jan 16, 2015
16,651
5,934
The word is based on context always....I rarely use it, as in I can count on one hand each time I say in a year...


Im black, american, and irish so fuck you bro
Hey Nemo you know Anastasios bro, he's no racist, dude was championing refugee rights in Sweden on the other site when it was big news if youll remember.
 

Lord Vutulaki

Banned
Jan 16, 2015
16,651
5,934
I don't care where you are raised, you use that word on a daily basis then you are a piece of shit. I read the thread he made and he was using it in a derogatory fashion, no doubt. I don't care for a second that he was supposedly raised in a place that doesn't have a history with the word. I live in a small town with very few non-white people, we don't have a history with that word either but it doesn't give us the right to use it to describe a black person.

Kelly banned him not for using it the first two times, he warned him about it and he did it again. He knew exactly what he was doing and what he was originally warned for. That dude is a piece of shit for doing that and good riddance, we don't need that kind of shit around here.
Youre an awesome poster champ love reading your stuff so I dont want to get into it with you by any means but if he had posted "nukkah" instead of what he did would you feel the same way?
 

Nemo?

Too weird to live, too rare to die.
Dec 2, 2015
4,716
7,887
Hey Nemo you know Anastasios bro, he's no racist, dude was championing refugee rights in Sweden on the other site when it was big news if youll remember.
Don't remember that BUT from what I do remember from his post's he seem's like an alright dude...I say lift the ban and throw him on some thin ice(pink name).

Never got the racist vibe from the guy....but keep the "n" word out of his vocabulary and put some respeck on my name

 

otaku1

TMMAC Addict
Jul 16, 2015
4,657
5,900
We arent as race sensitive in other parts of the world, Sweden for example doesnt have a history of slavery just like we dont have here either, major fishing magazines in Australia refer to Luderick or Blackfish as niggers or lizards for example and no African Australian I know gives a fuck granted they again dont have a history of being enslaved. I appreciate the transparency here unlike the other site where mods would have been silent on this thread, its one of the reasons I post here (the other being that Im banned everywhere else) but could you consider reducing the ban to a freeze?

If I thought he was a racist for a second Id be with you all the way on the permaban but he simply is not a racist just that he was raised in a society that doesnt have a history with that particular word. Thanks again for explaining your position.

Reminds me of that Maori fighter from the tuf Canada vs Australia. He used the word nigger (chill ok?) in an Instagram or Facebook post for a pic showing Maoris with the caption 'my niggas' or something. (IIRC another fighter reported him?) anyway the UFC released him real fast. Friends of his pleaded that this word means nothing in South Pacific and that Maoris tend to identify themselves with that word due to American influence/hip-hop etc.
@Vutulaki
 

Hauler

Been fallin so long it's like gravitys gone
Feb 3, 2016
47,454
59,371
I didn't see the 2nd post - just the 1st. I get what @Vutulaki is saying as different cultures view things in different ways, but I agree with the warning and edit La Paix @Kelly issued. And if a user ignores a warning and repeats the offense, it's pretty easy to assume a ban is forthcoming. That said, I'd be fine with bringing him back assuming he meant no harm.

It's a word I don't like hearing or reading - regardless of the connotation. I'd just as soon not see it on this site. But I'm new here so pay me no mind. ;)
 
Last edited:

Limpy

Banned
Oct 20, 2015
14,842
27,793
Youre an awesome poster champ love reading your stuff so I dont want to get into it with you by any means but if he had posted "nukkah" instead of what he did would you feel the same way?
I think it's disgusting that white people call each other "nigga" and think it's ok to do so. I totally get what you are saying but I don't see an excuse for it at all.

If someone made a thread here talking about Luke Rockhold losing to Bisping and said that they are happy the "cracker" got knocked out I'm sure Kelly would've done the same thing.
 

Lord Vutulaki

Banned
Jan 16, 2015
16,651
5,934
I didn't see the 2nd post - just the 1st. I get what @Vutulaki is saying as different cultures view things in different ways, but I agree with the warning and edit La Paix @Kelly issued. And if a user ignores a warning and repeats the offense, it's pretty easy to assume a ban is forthcoming. That said, I'd be fine with bringing him back assuming he meant no harm.

It's a word I don't like hearing or reading - regardless of the connotation. I'd just as soon not see it on this site.
Interestingly the African Americans Ive drank with here and in Thailand have INSISTED I use that word, not sure if its because Im darker than most of them or not but anyway I pretty much refused to use it except with a AA bro of mine I used to roll with after BJJ classes, I call him that every time I pinned him and would slap him around a little but that was after I knew him for years, helped each other move houses and shit like that but the cats at the pub who asked me to say it and the guys I drank with in Thailand I straight refused to because it just seemed wrong plus my people have a similar but less harsh history so I get it.

Hey lets delete this thread yeah, this thread makes the board look worse than the offending one.
 

Lord Vutulaki

Banned
Jan 16, 2015
16,651
5,934
I think it's disgusting that white people call each other "nigga" and think it's ok to do so. I totally get what you are saying but I don't see an excuse for it at all.

If someone made a thread here talking about Luke Rockhold losing to Bisping and said that they are happy the "cracker" got knocked out I'm sure Kelly would've done the same thing.
So Rockhold is a "cracker" but Bisping isnt? you fucking confusing Americanos
 
Status
Not open for further replies.