JACK SLACK: ROCKHOLD DOMINATES THE DRAGON

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Photo by Ed Mulholland/Zuffa LLC

Often when I write about how fantastic an upcoming card is looking the event fails to live up to my expectations. UFC on Fox: Machida versus Rockhold was every bit as great as I hoped and, better yet, there were a hundred moments where technique or strategy made the difference. A perfect night of fights in my eyes.

Much has been made of the main event, with many speculating that the loser of the bout, Lyoto Machida must have come in injured or had a devastating weight cut. I cannot comment with any authority on that, but I will say that the way he got dropped would have happened to the best Lyoto Machida.

Earlier in the week we discussed the competition style of karate which Machida uses—it was one of my best, so check it out—but one of the characteristics of karate is lunging in with straight punch flurries, with no regard for punches coming from the side. The non-punching hand is always low, and this is a bad habit which Lyoto has carried into MMA. It means that when he runs in, he can get chin checked with hooks from his sides.

On Friday, when we looked at the stylistic match-up, we discussed Rockhold's counter right hook. As Machida lunged in, Rockhold's forearm clipped him over the back of the head and it threw Machida to the ground.


The old check hook. Vintage Rockhold.

That was where Machida stayed for the rest of the round, and he took a pasting. Just as in the Jon Jones bout, when Machida returned to the feet—at the start of round two—he looked nothing like his usual self. He'd been beaten to sluggishness. Machida was desperately stepping in with punches when Rockhold kicked but the quickness was gone and his timing was off as he wobbled around the cage.

Rockhold manhandled him to the ground with ease and after a short struggle, Rockhold locked in the rear naked choke. It was an excellent showing from Rockhold—both as a crushing ground fighter and in his moment as a counter puncher, and demonstrated the flaws which still exist in Machida, even as a martial artist who recognizably grows with each performance.

In terms of growth, one of the finest showings of the night came from young Max Holloway. I have had my eye on Holloway for a long time. His boxing can be beautiful, he was throwing left hooks to the body straight off of the jab against Dennis Bermudez and it was beautiful to watch. He has, however, always had something of an immature attitude. He was the kind of guy who thought “putting on a show” meant leaping in with missed flying knees over and over.

Perhaps Holloway is now realizing that having some of the prettiest and most varied combinations in the division is more than enough of a show. You can see all the flying knees you want on regional shows, it's only in the big leagues that you'll see guys kickboxing like Holloway did last night.

Using his reach wonderfully, Holloway picked Cub Swanson apart. Swanson, meanwhile, looked just as one note as his moments on the feet against Frankie Edgar. One swinging counter attempt at a time. Whoever is feeding Swanson that tired old line of tripe about only needing to land once needs firing immediately. Swanson excels in those peculiar combinations—the kicks to the shin into the swinging lead hook and so on.

Jack Slack: Rockhold Dominates The Dragon | FIGHTLAND
 

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Greek777 @Galanis I'm curious to yourRockholds on this comment. I know you're a big fan of Jack and after reading your posts about this specific technique I'm interested in how you will consider this break down. Not a call out by any means bud just genuinely curious.

The old check hook. Vintage Rockhold
 

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Also I'm happy to see Jack mentions when Souza used the wall the pass. I mentioned that in the live thread and thought it was rather clever.
 

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Yes, that was a pretty damn sweet check hook. For some reason when I saw it live it, I didn't think Luke connected there. But from the gif it really looks like he did

asked on the ther thread but was not sure if anyone replied. Is that the moment everyone claims Machida "slipped"? Doesn't' look like a slip to me at all.
 

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Luke starts here facing this way before he throws the punch



Literally right before he connects he is at this angle. So he has actually pivoted seconds before throwing th punch. Which is completley fine. Especially when you're dealing with someone like Machida who also uses unorthodox angling



Here is the moment of mpact. Luke is angle completley to Lyto's side (he fell off to the right whch makes it lok like Luke is almost standing backwards)



It's strange though, because watching this gif, it almost looks like Luke clubs him down with his forearm, as opposed to landing a solid shot. Is there a slow mo gif of this available from another angle? It just doesn't look like it connects, but I felt like that was the moment in the fight that rocked him. It's very possible this connected behind the ear or back of the neck which can easily hurt a guy with a less powerful blow than on ther parts f the body. He didn't throw to the back of the neck with the intention of hitting there, but the way they were both moving result n the placement.

Either way, great technique and IMO despite getting tagged early, Luke not only out grappled Lyoto, he beat him everywhere.
 

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Excuse the typos. Fucked up keyboard. Can't ekeep going back and fixng sht lol. I, O and E keys are shit.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOe8vvGIR9Q


You can see Luke doing pretty well here, pulling some slick shit, against a full time boxer @ Jeff Mayweather's

When Luke gets backed against the ropes he does a really god job of getting away and cutting out without gettng pushed backwards. He reacts well to pressure. Very good footwork. Underappreciated IMO. Luke's striking has evolved immensely. Might be on of th frst heavier guys to implement a Cruz/Dillashaw type game for MMA.
 

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Lol wow. I just read the comments on that video. Bunch of arm chair quarterbacks talking about how horrible Luke is when he's in there sparring against a guy whose entire life is devoted to boxing, and Luke has to train about 50 different other things on top of boxing to be good at his job.

Fucking idiots. What do they expect? MMA fighters to be as good as boxers at BOXING? Comments saying "This guy is top 10 in the UFC. What a joke".. yeah because the UFC is all about boxing. Not only that despite the fact Luke is getting boxing work n here. He spends a lot of time kickboxing ,utilizing all sorts of ther standup techniques than just his hands. He did well here. Fucking morons

I'd love to see these people in the comments go against Luke in BJJ. "Bro this guy is a top 10 boxer and he can't even defend a d'arce. What a joke." HATE THEM. Lol. In the last years that I trained at the gym here, which was a super ghetto shit hole, people would endlessly tell me how they'd tool MMA fighters. It infuriated me.

Gonzaga later went to the same gym for private sessions to hone his boxing. I'm, sure f they said that to hm they would have found out quickly how well they'd have done in a real fight against someone who can do everything. The guys who would say that shit would whoop my ass on a regular basis though .Low level pros, high level ammys. So I couldn't say much lol. Not like I'd try to knee them in the face during sparring and get jumped by 10 crazy Puerto Ricans.

Really pisses me off how ignorant boxing people are to the fact MMA s a far superior system for defending yourself n a REAL situation where people don't agree to just throw hands. Obviously anyone with boxing exp. will do well n the street against most people. But even a high school wrestler with 2-3 years in is gonna dump them on their head if they don't connect quick enough and catch them coming in on the takedown ala OSP/Cummins.... which 99 times out of 10 they will not, since they don't train to react to takedowns, just punches

I grew up in boxing but I understand reality lol. Enough of this rant. I just can't stand reading those comments. Makes my blood boil. Because trust me, I have met so man boxers and 90% of them are arrogant about this exact subject. They refuse to believe what they've devoted their life to is not the actual ultimate answer when it comes to being a bad ass.
 

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It's funny that boxers hate MMA so much. I'd say the overwhelming majority of MMA practitioners I know enjoy boxing, a lot. I truly believe it's a delusional/insecure thing where they just can't accept that boxing is not the be all, end all. Just funny how opposite that dynamic is. MMA people are usually a lot cooler from my personal experience. Douches in both though.
 

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Yes, that was a pretty damn sweet check hook. For some reason when I saw it live it, I didn't think Luke connected there. But from the gif it really looks like he did

asked on the ther thread but was not sure if anyone replied. Is that the moment everyone claims Machida "slipped"? Doesn't' look like a slip to me at all.
That is what I was referring to. And yeah, it looks like a combination of the forearm to the back of the head and Machida tripping on the leg.

But my main point was that it's not like Machida was stunned and Rockhold took advantage of that on the ground. Rockhold took advantage of the slip by completely manhandling a fresh Machida on the ground. Impressive stuff.
 

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Good replies man. Tbh honest I didn't think it was a check hook at all and agree that I think it looks to be more of a club. Maybe @Splinty or lookoutawhale @lookoutawhale can slow it down for us using their computer sourcery. Either way if Luke's weakest tool is appearenlty his striking then MW is in trouble.
 

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It's funny that boxers hate MMA so much. I'd say the overwhelming majority of MMA practitioners I know enjoy boxing, a lot. I truly believe it's a delusional/insecure thing where they just can't accept that boxing is not the be all, end all. Just funny how opposite that dynamic is. MMA people are usually a lot cooler from my personal experience. Douches in both though.
Its like most things out there. Traditional musicians probably still hate on rap as its a shit mix of elements which when combined create something unique and entertaining to a younger audience.
 

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That is what I was referring to. And yeah, it looks like a combination of the forearm to the back of the head and Machida tripping on the leg.

But my main point was that it's not like Machida was stunned and Rockhold took advantage of that on the ground. Rockhold took advantage of the slip by completely manhandling a fresh Machida on the ground. Impressive stuff.
I have to rewatch this entire fight again. I only watched it once live. Was that the only time Machida was "dropped" in r1? Luke may very well have clubbed him so hard h got wobbled, lol. OR, more than likely, the punch did connect and it's hard to tell from that angle. I have no idea. When people are saying Machida slipped they're acting like it was his own mistake. If that's the moment they are talking about.. that was done by Luke, not a clumsy footwork mistake by Lyoto.

I feel like Luke was fucking him up on the feet after the first 2 mins. But honestly, watching once doesn't cut it, especially when you're emotionally invested and it's live.In fact, I'm wide awake super early. So, probably will rewatch the entire main card. GREAT show.
 

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I actually missed this as it aired live. Caught literally the last 20 seconds. Can't wait to watch this thing in full.

Jacare is on anther level too. Unreal. Rockhold vs jacare 2 would be a GREAT fight. I think it makes perfect sense considering their win streaks and first fight. I know UFC probably won't do it n order to not kill off a contender.. but man.. I want that fight.

Look at how heavy Jacare is on top. He gives NO space at all. The way his head is just driving in. Imagine how smothering that feels. Then BOOM out of nowhere, he is pulling some wild animal type balance and movement, fucking wrapping around you from side control
 

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I feel like Luke was fucking him up on the feet after the first 2 mins. But honestly, watching once doesn't cut it, especially when you're emotionally invested and it's live.In fact, I'm wide awake super early. So, probably will rewatch the entire main card. GREAT show.
No, it was mostly Luke pressing forward and Machida retreating, with Machida catching Luke with 4 or 5 straight punches before Rockhold caught him and sent him to the ground.
 

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Also, BIG TIME LOL @ Frankie Edgar during that gif!

He's sitting there with the most content, pleased look on his face. You can tell that dude loves fights.
 

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Good replies man. Tbh honest I didn't think it was a check hook at all and agree that I think it looks to be more of a club. Maybe @Splinty or lookoutawhale @lookoutawhale can slow it down for us using their computer sourcery. Either way if Luke's weakest tool is appearenlty his striking then MW is in trouble.

yeah sure, here is that specific section, slowed down to half a second a frame.

its a weird fall. Rockhold doesnt seem to really connect with anything. It seems like Machida is trying to duck the hook but then goes off balance and force of the missed punch turns into kind of a playground headlock fall.