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IschKabibble

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We're having a scientific discussion about race being either a social or genetic construct. A dictionary might not be the best place to look for evidence. Just because a word means a certain thing doesn't make it fact.

Do physical traits exist among groups of people. Of course but they are in no way a defining factor of race.
I quoted the dictionary for etymology. That's very relevant to the discussion.
 

Leigh

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I posted the picture. We're focusing on the microscopic now while ignoring the original meaning of the word. The differing physical traits are there. But we're digging so hard to pretend they don't exist. Feels like a giant defense mechanism if I'm being honest.
"Race has real differences"

"List them"

"Don't be so defensive"

Ask these folks if they care to entertain the argument...



Deflection
 

Kingtony87

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I quoted the dictionary for etymology. That's very relevant to the discussion.
I get that the dictionary that race can be defined by a group of people with distinctive physical attributes. But i feel this thread has shown that there's no way to give any particular group a set of distinctive physical attributes. There's far to much diversity amongst those "racial" groups and any and all of those physical attributes will not be exclusive to any particular group and can be found in almost off of them.
 

IschKabibble

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"Race has real differences"

"List them"

"Don't be so defensive"


Deflection
This is pretty hypocritical. I keep giving objective evidence of our differences and the only argument against is that we're more alike inside than we are out.

Well no shit. We're of the same species.
 

IschKabibble

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And naturally, as time progresses, the differences will become less and less identifiable -- both internally and externally.

 

Leigh

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This is pretty hypocritical. I keep giving objective evidence of our differences and the only argument against is that we're more alike inside than we are out.

Well no shit. We're of the same species.
Not only have you not provided any valid evidence of the shared physical traits of a race, you haven't even listed them.
 

Kingtony87

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This is pretty hypocritical. I keep giving objective evidence of our differences and the only argument against is that we're more alike inside than we are out.

Well no shit. We're of the same species.
I think the argument is that any of the perceived races are too different on the outside and too much like other perceived races to accurately define that race by physical attributes
 

IschKabibble

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Not only have you not provided any valid evidence of the shared physical traits of a race, you haven't even listed them.
I provided objective evidence to be argued against. You have to "invalidate" that with your objective evidence. Saying we're more alike than not (mfw), is contradictory to the words original meaning.
 

IschKabibble

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Why do we have to leave the North Sentinelese people quarantined from the modern world? Because if we introduce them to our modern biology it will fucking kill them. Their immune system is vastly different from any other race on the planet.

Discuss...
 

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I provided objective evidence to be argued against. You have to "invalidate" that with your objective evidence. Saying we're more alike than not (mfw), is contradictory to the words original meaning.
Ok let's sort this now. I don't need you to provide evidence, I just want you to name one different or shared trait that separates or defines a race. Just one and either a different or a shared physical trait. Your choice.

Just one.
 

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Why do we have to leave the North Sentinelese people quarantined from the modern world? Because if we introduce them to our modern biology it will fucking kill them. Their immune system is vastly different from any other race on the planet.

Discuss...
Is this your final answer?
 

IschKabibble

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Ok let's sort this now. I don't need you to provide evidence, I just want you to name one different or shared trait that separates or defines a race. Just one and either a different or a shared physical trait. Your choice.

Just one.
Size/shape of skull and corresponding soft tissues.

 

Kingtony87

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Why do we have to leave the North Sentinelese people quarantined from the modern world? Because if we introduce them to our modern biology it will fucking kill them. Their immune system is vastly different from any other race on the planet.

Discuss...
We've adapted to our surroundings. If you trace your lineage back and are somehow were able to transport one of your ancestors to modern day i bet their immune systems woukd be lacking as well. How's that evidence of racially distinctive physical attributes?
 

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We've adapted to our surroundings. If you trace your lineage back and are somehow were able to transport one of your ancestors to modern day i bet their immune systems woukd be lacking as well. How's that evidence of racially distinctive physical attributes?
Because they don't exist in the past. They exist right now. As an entirely different race of people.
 

IschKabibble

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So these people with different sized skulls, must be from two different races, even though they are siblings.
You're ignoring the fact that the photo I posted is an aggregate of people. Not just solo comparisons.