Now that fugitive from justice Jon Jones has been captured, lets talk Mayweather/Paquiao

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Who takes it?

  • Mayweather - can't read, can punch!

    Votes: 15 68.2%
  • Jesus Pacman

    Votes: 7 31.8%

  • Total voters
    22

sgotwalks

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Fuc-, good point, forgot about Wild World of Sports!........remember watching Evander Holyfield fight.....fuc-k let me look this up......dwight muhammed qawi........was fuc-ing watching this one afternoon thinking this is a fuc-ing fight and thinking sh-t qawi was in jail for a spell (at least announcers said that) and he's tough as nails.........good luck getting a fight like that on free tv on afternoon.......at least how i remember......you be a cool dude sgotwalks @sgotwalks .......
Thanks bud! Funny you should mention that fight, I just watched it last month for the first time in decades, lol! Fucking loved that fight!!!

Funny story about Holyfield vs Dwight Muhammad Qawi.............the day we watched that fight I think we had been up partying all night the night before and a group of us were pushing through because we didn't want to miss it. My one buddy, crazy Rich the punk rocker kept screaming out "NO SLEEP TILL...QAWI!!!!!" It became a mantra that day, and I didn't realize at the time that he was playing off the words from what would have been a newly released song by the Beastie Boys 'No Sleep Till Brooklyn'. At the time, I was a Pink Floyd and Black Sabbath guy and had no idea who the Beastie Boys were, but as I came to love them years later, and still play them from time to time, I always think of that fight when that song comes on and it feels like it just fucking happened. I can still see the shirtless tans and mullets of a bunch of drunken, tired 80's shitheads getting amped up for the big fight! I still recall reading shortly afterwards that Holyfield lost 15 pounds during that fight. Worth checking it out on youtube again some day.
 

Team Bisping

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Ok gentlemen....I leave my financial destiny in your hands....I'm gonna put £40 down ( which is about 60 dollars ) not much but still.....Who should I put my money on?
 

Robbie Hart

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Ok gentlemen....I leave my financial destiny in your hands....I'm gonna put £40 down ( which is about 60 dollars ) not much but still.....Who should I put my money on?
from one uk guy (well adopted, have citizenship and passport) to another Gilbosh, go with floyd.........aint no way he's going to lose.........and if he loses, i will travel to wherever you live and buy you and your wife or girlfriend dinner........
 

Team Bisping

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from one uk guy (well adopted, have citizenship and passport) to another Gilbosh, go with floyd.........aint no way he's going to lose.........and if he loses, i will travel to wherever you live and buy you and your wife or girlfriend dinner........
I'll sort the restaurant booking out tonight then, i'm thinking 2 michelin star...10 courses...beautiful. ;)
 

ShatsBassoon

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this is correct, does anyone think Floyd will take even one punch from "pak-yow"? he fought a grinder in Rick Hatton (no allegiance, just point of reference) and that grinder had no luck.........Floyd will run the entire fight and win an absolute borefest of a fight.........ud to Floyd
This is the biggest reason I won't be buying the ppv. Just too much build up for this fight to do anything but underachieve.
Money has more to gain by not losing then Pacqaio has to by winning.
 
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Gameplanning for Greatness: How Manny Pacqiuao beats Floyd Mayweather - Bloody Elbow


3. Be first, be last
2. Angles before, during, and after
1. Offensive variety


Sounds simple, but nothing with Floyd ever really is. Let's tackle each point one at a time.

#3 - BE FIRST, BE LAST

As noted in part one, Mayweather isn't really a counter puncher so much as he is an out-fighter with great counters. His bread and butter has always been that flexible jab and, more frequently against southpaws, the awkward and stinging lead right hand. These are one-and-done techniques because that's how Mayweather likes it. He will counter when pressed, but those counters really only serve to give him room to escape so that he can resume his preferred range. Even his knockout punches are usually followed by some automatic defensive maneuvers.

Mayweather likes distance because it allows him to see his opponents' attacks coming. The more room he has, the more easily he can make his adversary miss. And because he knows his opponents are trying to do the same thing to him, he fills the empty space between punches with feints and flinches, constantly threatening only to attack when the opponent finally relaxes and takes a breath. Mayweather loves to make his opponents think, and once they're thinking, he's got them beat. So what Manny Pacquiao do about it?

Well, as it turns out Manny Pacquiao is actually a pretty solid counter puncher, and puts together great combinations when given the opportunity to plant his feet.

#2 - ANGLES BEFORE, DURING, AND AFTER

Angular footwork is one of Pacquiao's best assets. Moving in and out and from side to side, he peppers his opponents with combinations and pot shots as they turn to catch up with him. Floyd Mayweather has great footwork, but even good footwork requires a fighter to turn himself to face his opponent. There's simply no way for Mayweather to avoid moving his feet to keep up with Pacquiao, and it's during those little turns and shifts, when Mayweather is out of position to punch or defend properly, that Pacquiao can find opportunities.

Miguel Cotto gave Mayweather one of the toughest fights of his career--shockingly, he spent lengthy portions of the bout boxing with Mayweather, circling around him and sneaking sharp punches through while he was playing catch-up.

Again, for Pacquiao this is all a game of initiative. Mayweather has always thrived on holding the initiative. Whether countering or leading, you can't help but get the impression that most of Mayweather's opponents are doing exactly what he wants and expects them to do.

#1 - OFFENSIVE VARIETY


As my co-host and co-conspirator Patrick Wyman said on the latest episode of Heavy Hands, "variety is the spice of life." And for Floyd Mayweather, it is the smell of defeat.

There's a simple analogy that describes Mayweather's boxing genius perfectly. His cold confidence and mechanical efficiency is like nothing so much as the behavior of a boxing machine. A boxing supercomputer, even. As a boxing computer, Mayweather knows allthe algorithms. Especially after 47 fights, he's seen enough fighters to know the signs and tells of every basic combination and movement. Step hard to his right? Floyd is preparing to shoulder roll or roll under before your foot even lands. Pawing with your jab? You'd best believe there's a counter right coming over the top of that very soon.

But what happens to a computer when it gets a confusing, unknown equation? Or even a completely nonsensical one? Here's a very small example from the DeMarcus Corley fight we looked at earlier that might demonstrate this point.

Corley steps in on Mayweather with a left uppercut to the body--a great distance closing punch for the southpaw. As he closes the distance he shifts into an orthodox stance and comes shoulder-to-chest with Floyd, and immediately throws two punches with what is now his lead left hand, a hook to the chest that gets Floyd's attention, and a short, clean punch to the jaw. I can tell you now, that's not a combination Mayweather sees every day.
How does pacman win this fight? Interesting read. Lots of gifs in the link
 

Left Hook Larry

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Anyone paying the highway robbery price of $99 for the ppv? I have a fishing trip planned on Saturday heard there are some high quality streams around.
 

ECC170

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Anyone paying the highway robbery price of $99 for the ppv? I have a fishing trip planned on Saturday heard there are some high quality streams around.
If I use proper English..can I join?
 

ECC170

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And typing prowess..
 

Wild

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Anyone paying the highway robbery price of $99 for the ppv? I have a fishing trip planned on Saturday heard there are some high quality streams around.
Hell to the no. I'll watch it though.
 

Left Hook Larry

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Friend of mine has a bar and he said the cost to show this would make him have to charge $ per person to even think of making it profitable. He told me there's no way a bar is going to make any money at the ridiculous rates being charged unless people get charged at the door.
 

MoomBah

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Anyone one know if I can buy the ppv online? No cable. I mean I could illegally stream it, but id prefer quality.

I'd even buy an illegal stream as long as its good.
 
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Anyone paying the highway robbery price of $99 for the ppv? I have a fishing trip planned on Saturday heard there are some high quality streams around.
here in the Netherlands, you can't even get that legal PPV:eek:
 

sgotwalks

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Asked about fighting a bigger man in Mayweather, Pacquiao said, "I've been fighting bigger guys. It doesn't bother me."

About an hour before the weigh-in, Pacquiao arrived at his dressing room. It was a festive atmosphere as he was surrounded by about 40 people, including Hall of Fame trainer Freddie Roach.

Pacquiao, who has no problems making weight, actually has to eat to get close to the division limit. He was eating in the dressing room beforehand, chomping on a Butterfinger peanut butter cup, a candy company with whom he has an endorsement deal, and reading through a book.

Pacquiao and Roach received handwritten letters wishing them luck from Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones. They were hand-delivered by a lawyer from Top Rank, Pacquiao's promoter.



I AM SO FUCKING JACKED FOR TOMORROW NIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!