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SUP FUCKERS

Where are you watching? At home? Bar? Theater? A river?

Thank god I am having a last minute get together with 5 other people who chipped in. I really did not want to risk a stream on this one.

It's time for history. AHHHHHHHHHH
 

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I KNOW

I JUST DON'T TRUST THEM, LOL

PLUS I WANT TO WATCH IT IN HD

If I didn't have friends over, my plan was to wait until like 3 am, cut off communication from the world, and DL a high def torrent. But I caved because I was scared that somehow it'd get spoiled

You guys. I am so fucking excited. I am like a little kid on Christmas morning. I love you all.

K I gotta take off because this screen is for both PC and TV, so gonna switch back to TV so we can watch Lomachenko (KEEP YOUR EYES ON THIS KID, he is amazing, Olympic gold winner).

I'll be on after the fight. Can't wait. Cannot fucking wait. I love this website. I love fights. AHHHHHHHHHHH
 

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Lomachenko has had like 4 pro fights and is already in people's p4p lists. He is nuts.

K peace d00ds.

Post a pic of your set up. So I have something to look at later. Curious to see how everyone across the world and our community is taking in the biggest night in boxing history for the last 40+ years. Tyson/Lewis doesn't come close, and I remember the hype for that one. But everyone knew Tyson had no chance

I have no idea what's going to happen tonight. But, I think Floyd puts on a masterpiece showing, the best of his career, with defense that makes Sweet Pea, Willie Pep and Toney applaud

And then I expect a lot of people to say "I can't believe I paid $100 to watch Floyd run away for 36 minutes". And I will laugh

But my god if Pacquiao wins, my head will explode

 

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Yeah Boyyy!!!

I have some good options for sitting in with some large groups of fun people who have asked me out for this one, but I am sticking with my 65 year old buddy who is a huge fight fan and a bit of an anti-social fuck. I have been watching a shitload of boxing and UFC with this ole boy since I met in back in 2007, and he's crazy and he parties hard just like the way I like my friends when I do decide to have those rare nights out, so it's a no brainer for me!

There are some guys my age around here who just don't get it, and i don't even bother trying to explain.......just say "Nope, I'm watching it with Zane and you're not invited because he doesn't like people," lol!

The good thing about this setup is I don't have to compete with a bunch of people for the pisser in between rounds. Just one guy, and if he beats me to it I just step outside and piss on his fence. I also don't have to listen to a bunch of ridiculous comments about stupid shit while the fight is in progress. Well worth the extra dough for me.

I'm outta hear in a few minutes, enjoy the hell out of it boys!
 

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Watching free and legal.
1080p too :)
Screw paying for it.... I ain't no John.
 

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^ I don't think he lives in the US. People in Europe get the UFCs, boxing, etc on cable. Not fair! I know someone in the UK said they pay like $5 a month for BT sport and it has every single UFC PPV on it all year round.

The US gets absolutely raped when it comes to PPV, boxing and MMA. Buddy of mine in Australia also has all UFC and boxing on regular old cable.

Can't wait to move outa here lol. We got the HD feed and it doesn't look so good. Thinking there is something wrong with my cable box. No time to fuck with it now though

Hope you guys enjoy the fight!
 

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Maybe I'll call the cable company later and say it didn't work and try to get a refund :p Because there's no way this is "HD". It's pixelated and pissing me off. oh well though, looks fine from a few feet away. Still, for a $100 PPV in HD, you expect it to be the most beautiful thing ever
 
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^ I don't think he lives in the US. People in Europe get the UFCs, boxing, etc on cable. Not fair! I know someone in the UK said they pay like $5 a month for BT sport and it has every single UFC PPV on it all year round.

The US gets absolutely raped when it comes to PPV, boxing and MMA. Buddy of mine in Australia also has all UFC and boxing on regular old cable.

Can't wait to move outa here lol. We got the HD feed and it doesn't look so good. Thinking there is something wrong with my cable box. No time to fuck with it now though

Hope you guys enjoy the fight!
you can have all the channels you want
 

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Everyone with me except 1 person didn't like the fight. I told them what to expect beforehand but the hype of the fight was so huge, people didn't care. I knew it would turn out exactly that way, but I thought Pacquiao would give more of an effort to overwhelm Floyd.

Apparently, Pacquiao had a fucked up shoulder and refused a cortisone shot in the locker room. I thought he seemed incredibly timid and off. Even though he flurried from time to time, he never seemed to go all out. Did not cut angles to get inside. Only success against Floyd was on the ropes, but even then, almost all of the punches hit Floyd's arms and shoulders.

I was hoping Pac would come out with a burning desire to kill and leave it all out there. He ended up landing single numbers of punches in some rounds and threw less than 30, 40 shots in the first few. If his shoulder really was hurt, that would explain it. But still, I thought he would take it to Floyd more. Easier said than done though. It's very frustrating when you can't catch a guy over and over and over

I can't get over the fact Tito paid 250,000 to see that fight. I liked it, but it was hardly worth 100 between 6 people, nevermind a quarter million
 

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I recognize Mayweather's brilliance, and I like watching him. But there is a reason he will never be greater than Ali or many others. I think Duran could have beaten him. He would have done what Pacquiao should have tonight. Maybe that's a bold statement but it's hypothetical anyway.
 

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Hands of stone would have touched him...and not let him coast...
 

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^ I don't think he lives in the US. People in Europe get the UFCs, boxing, etc on cable. Not fair! I know someone in the UK said they pay like $5 a month for BT sport and it has every single UFC PPV on it all year round.

The US gets absolutely raped when it comes to PPV, boxing and MMA. Buddy of mine in Australia also has all UFC and boxing on regular old cable.

Can't wait to move outa here lol. We got the HD feed and it doesn't look so good. Thinking there is something wrong with my cable box. No time to fuck with it now though

Hope you guys enjoy the fight!
Galanis, this one was not on bt sport, it's on sky box office hd or box nation which is a pay extra channel....not trying to say we don't get a lot, but boxing isn't one of them, normally speaking that is......UFC, yes, for sure, but not these big events.....
 

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I was hoping Pac would come out with a burning desire to kill and leave it all out there.
I think this is what everyone was hoping for. It would have made the fight great if that had happened.
 

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The thing is - he did try.. but Mayweather made it impossible. Manny had a few moments in the fight. I am gonna rewatch it, but I think it was round 4 he had his best showing. Just wanna add this to the people who kept saying "Floyd ran away"

Manny knew, Roach knew, everyone knew that what Manny had to bring to have a chance in this fight was pressure and volume. If he could've attempted at least ONE flurry in each round, similar to 4.. even if he didn't land, it would've done a lot in the judges eyes. Instead, he was timid, and only took chances when Mayweather was (rarely) against the ropes. Within the first minute of the fight, Floyd was dictating the pace and center of the ring, and I knew that barring a miracle, Manny was not gonna have a chance if he fought that way.

My buddy Rick has been boxing since he was like 13. Out of all the sparring partners I've had over the years.. he was the only one I could rarely if ever get a good round against. He was so incredibly evasive, with great timing coming in and out.

SO FRUSTRATING when you are trying your absolute best to get ANY offense on the guy, and no matter what, he just gets away. Over and over and over. Even if you catch him 1-2 times, he NEVER stays put, never stays straight in front of you, is constantly cutting angles to your side etc.

I can't even imagine what it's like to fight MAYWEATHER, and to be someone like Manny who relies on offense. To be honest, the first Maidana fight, that was the exact strategy I thought Manny would go out there with. Not worry about getting countered, and when having Floyd against the ropes, just go into all out berserker mode, even if only 1 out of 10 shots land.

The judges have a hard time telling what shots land to May's shoulders or face - hence the horrible cards in the Canelo fight, despite that being a one sided win for Floyd.

Even if Manny was frustrated by the movement.. There were times when, like that one point in I believe the 4th, he just unloaded with reckless abandon. Except once the fight got halfway through.. until round 10, maybe.. Manny was content to chase Floyd around, try to get 1-2 shots off, and never smother him and make it a dog fight.

I'm not saying that's an EASY thing to do, at all. But he certainly had more than a few opportunities to try, and he just could NOT pull the trigger.

Could it be lack of PEDs (growth, EPO etc) that make Manny look timid these days? Could it be that he's fought so long and hard for years that he just can't turn it on like he used to? Could it be that he really was hurt in the shoulder? Could it be that Mayweather is just THAT DAMN GOOD and does this to EVERYONE?

I think it's everything. One thing Floyd haters don't give him credit for is that he';s an AMAZING counter puncher. Any time Manny would come in and try to jab or go for a 1-2, Floyd would immediately duck to the side and blast him with a lead right hand. Floyd's lead right is a very powerful punch, and it's deceptive because of how accurate and quick it is. People think it's just a pawing type of punch.. but late in his career, Mayweather has developed it as his single most offensive and effective weapon.

Once Pacquiao poured it on in the early going, and Floyd 1) was able to cut angles and slip away repeatedly, and 2) tag Manny HARD with the right every time he came in... I could see Manny getting discouraged.

I mean Manny was known for throwing 100+ punches per round in his prime. That's insane. People like Teddy Atlas were saying that Manny needs to throw somewhere around 800 punches at LEAST in this fight to be successful, to bring the volume, and to put the pressure on.

Instead, he threw less than 30 in some rounds.. and in at least 4 or 5 rounds, landed in SINGLE DIGIT numbers. His landing average was actually below most of Mayweather's opponents.

I think Manny may have lost that killer instinct.. but at the same time.. I just think no one can get to Floyd. Nobody. The Manny of 5 years ago, who was probably all doped up, would have had a much better chance. But even at 38, Mayweather is as good, slick, fast, and accurate as ever (in the ring anyway, because he talked about how hard it was to train the way he does and get in the gym every day with his age)

The point is... After so long, so many rounds, of not being able to even come close to Floyd.. and to literally land in single digit numbers... Manny got discouraged and became more timid. that's what happens to EVERYONE Floyd has faced - and I know first hand how frustrating it can be to not connect AT ALL to your opponent. By a few rounds in, you are losing focus, you are looking for the one big shot, you just want to hit the guy SO DAMN BAD.. and yet you can't. So instead of fighting smart, you are fighting HIS fight.

That's why Maywaether is unbeaten and a master. Not only is his defense amazing, he is deceptively tricky with his power shots, and controls the pace, rhythm and style of the fight from the opening bell. Every single time.

So many guys have come along that were gonna have the style to beat him. They'd have the pressure, they said. This guy or that guy was finally gonna "take it to Floyd".

It's not like those guys didn't try. They sure did. The thing is, you can try all you want.. but Floyd is just not gonna let it happen.

He knows he's older now and slowing down in the gym (not the ring).. but EVERYONE WILL LOSE if they keep going too long. he knows his sell by date, and that's why he's fighting in September instead of waiting another year to let father time catch up even more. He knew Manny's sell by date too, and took the fight when Manny had lost a step.

It's mind blowing to me that people actually think "Manny was robbed! The decision was so corrupt!" There's a reason every single pro boxer/legend out there covering the fights (Lennox Lewis, B-Hop, Andre Ward, Roy Jones, etc) all knew exactly what I know - that Manny was dominated.

Boxing is not "come forward and go all out" every time. It's exciting as FUCK when it is - but Floyd would not be unbeaten if that were his style.

He plays the smartest, most dominant style in the game - similar to a GSP - and while it's not entertaining to the masses.. There are purists out there who love watching it because the understand the immense skill, timing, ability and strategy involved to be able to do that kinda thing.

Like, I've heard Joe Rogan talk millions of times about how he likes watching Jon Fitch or GSP, because he understands every single thing happening in there. He knows where they are gonna do things, how, why, when... It's because he has grappled for years and as a participant he knows how hard it is to control an elite fighter in that manner, while taking no damage.

I can't see those things because I never grappled. However, I have been consumed with boxing technique my whole life. and while many find Floyd's fights boring, I enjoy watching them quite a bit, because I know just how hard it is to do what he does.. for 12 rounds.. and not make a SINGLE mistake, a single misstep, for 48 straight fights. That's really, really crazy.

I just think the absolute brilliance in strategy, movement, dictation, EVERYTHING that Floyd did to Manny.. was a complete shut out.

Obviously not many will agree with me. And yes I WANTED Manny to win, because it would've shook up the world, made a huge rematch, and been nuts. But I knew exactly how this fight was gonna go, how people's reactions would be, etc... It's called the "Sweet Science" for a reason.. not called "Brawl for All" or the "Tough man Contest"

If Floyd took the risks his contemporaries on the ATG list did.. he would not be undefeated. He takes calculated risks and is ALWAYS thinking a step or two ahead of his opponent. It's brilliance. It's not the most entertaining slug fest to watch and leap out of your seat over. But it's absolute mastery of boxing at the highest level of the sport. I can't help but respect and enjoy that when I see it.

"Running" is Kalib Starnes vs Nate Quarry. Floyd landing literally twice as many punches as Manny, while still playing a perfect defensive strategy, is not running. It's fighting smart. It's the sweet science. It's hit and don't be hit. Not appealing to all, but at its core, it may be the best way to fight if you want to have a long career, take as little damage as possible, and dominate every time out. They're prize fighters.. and he fights for the biggest prizes because he never loses, whether it's fun to watch or not.

History will be a lot more kind to Mayweather as the decades go by. People will see him as a master of his craft, and just like a Willie Pep, look back at him as a ring general who nobody could figure out.

If anything, people should get mad at Floyd's opponents for never being able to solve the puzzle. WE ALL KNOW what Floyd is gona do - they know, they plan their whole camp around it. But no one comes close, ever. Not even close at all.

That says something to just how good he is. Sorry for the rant.. it's just the same thing after EVERY SINGLE FLOYD FIGHT.. I called it Wednesday, and to me it's like.. if people go in to watch a Floyd fight and expect something different.. that is their own fault, and Manny's fault for not taking it to Floyd the way he promised he could for 7 years now. Floyd did exactly what he said he'd do across that entire half decade - fought like a master and didn't let Manny get his offense off.

Anyway.. rant over.. I just think the absolute brilliance in strategy, movement, dictation, EVERYTHING that Floyd did to Manny.. was a complete shut out. If anyone is mad about it.. be mad at Manny for not solving the puzzle. Floyd did what he always does. Manny couldn't.
 

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I doubt anyone is gonna sit and read that all. But if you want some insight on why Floyd is so good, and why it's not really fair or accurate to say he "runs away".. read that above and try to see it from my point of view. Floyd is fighting to win, and he sure knows how to. he's not fighting to entertain and exchange in a slugfest. He's fighting to win, to land more punches, and to prevent punches from being landed on him. He picks his shots, he doesn't get lured into wild exchanges.. and out of the 48 fights he's had, no one has been able to figure him out. That's greatness.

It's not like he fought bums either. Every single fighter in his weight class, and even above (Canelo, Cotto etc) stepped to Floyd and the same result happened every single time. He has dominated and shut down some all time great fighters over the years... and hey, it may not be the most fun thing for a casual fan to watch.. but no one can deny it's effectiveness

It's just amazing to me that so many people are claiming it was a "robbery" and that Manny was "lighting him up the whole time making him back away"

I don't think they realize that it doesn't count when someone gets hit on the arms or th gloves. I have no idea what fight those people were watching, where Manny apparently beat Floyd up badly. I recall Manny having his moments in maybe 3 rounds, and other than that, looking lost, confused, timid and unable to pull the trigger. And every time he did, save for maybe 2 exchanges, I remember Floyd blasting Manny right on the jaw with a lead right counter. That played a large part into why Manny was afraid to go all out, also. Not just Floyd's "running" as people like to say