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I'm talking about fighters who left the promotion as the Bellator champion, not people who lost and then left:

Hector Lombard, mw champion: 3-5-1 in the UFC

Eddie Alvarez, lw champion: 3-2 in the UFC

Will Brooks, lw champion: 1-2 in the UFC

I've said it before and I'll say it again - Bellator is bush league.
 
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Lets be fair to Alvarez he won the lightweight belt and that's no mean feat. Lightweight is the strongest division.
 
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Zeph said:
Lets be fair to Alvarez he won the lightweight belt and that's no mean feat. Lightweight is the strongest division.
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Yeah and he lost the belt to the GOAT, for which we really shouldn't discredit him.
 
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why don't you mention people like benson? Someone who held and defended UFC gold. Dude could have easily been 0-3 in Bellator.

Wilson reis is about to challenge for UFC gold. Dude lost 4 times in Bellator, getting flat lined by pitbull and dantas.
 
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Clappin'Daddys said:
why don't you mention people like benson? Someone who held and defended UFC gold. Dude could have easily been 0-3 in Bellator.

Wilson reis is about to challenge for UFC gold. Dude lost 4 times in Bellator, getting flat lined by pitbull and dantas.
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Benson was on the downslope before he got signed. Wilson Reis is just hitting his prime, and even then Wilson is middle of the top 10.
 
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Zeph said:
Benson was on the downslope before he got signed. Wilson Reis is just hitting his prime, and even then Wilson is middle of the top 10.
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Downward slope based on what? Downward slope based on leaving the UFC on two wins at ww? One against masvidal. Or downward becaue he was having trouble with multiple Bellator fighters across 3 weight divisions.


Hitting his prime base on what? Based on the fact that he is doing better in the UFC than in Bellator?

Be real bro
 
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The record would be better if they had signed the GOAT Bellator champ:
Cole Konrad

Oh, and the record would be better if they had signed Askren too.
 
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Clappin'Daddys said:
why don't you mention people like benson? Someone who held and defended UFC gold. Dude could have easily been 0-3 in Bellator.

Wilson reis is about to challenge for UFC gold. Dude lost 4 times in Bellator, getting flat lined by pitbull and dantas.
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The day Bellator signs an active UFC champion who vacated his UFC belt to sign with them, I will mention that person.

Gotta be honest, though, I'm not holding my breath...
 
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Clappin'Daddys said:
Downward slope based on what? Downward slope based on leaving the UFC on two wins at ww? One against masvidal. Or downward becaue he was having trouble with multiple Bellator fighters across 3 weight divisions.


Hitting his prime base on what? Based on the fact that he is doing better in the UFC than in Bellator?

Be real bro
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Downslope of his peformances. He got KO'd by RDA, beat by Cerrone, then beat Thatch who was recently beat by a debutant on short notice in the first round, it took Benson till the 4th, after which he got gifted a decision against Masvidal. Definitely on the downslope.

All of that happened after he hit the 9 year mark in the game. That's generally the point where the wear and tear on the body starts degrading performances. Some people buck the trend, some veterans mask it with experience and savvy, but it works as a general guideline and Benson fits it perfectly.

Try it for some other fighters. Shogun lost to Jones in his 9th year of his career. Chuck Liddell got KO'd by Rampage in his 9th year of his career. Rampage himself lost to Forrest 9 years in. You'll be surprised to see just how many downslopes start there. Which isn't to say they can never win, but general athletic performance starts to drop and they lose fights they shouldn't.
 
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Clappin'Daddys said:
Completely irrelevant to my original post, but ok.
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I didn't mention Benson for the same reason I didn't mention former Bellator guys like Minakov or Machovsky, who had lost their respective belts inside one promotion (in their cases Bellator, in Benson's case the UFC) before leaving and signing with the other promotion.

There are 3 guys who are technically still Bellator champions, and only 1 of whom has had a halfway decent UFC run.
 
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Zeph said:
Downslope of his peformances. He got KO'd by RDA, beat by Cerrone, then beat Thatch who was recently beat by a debutant on short notice in the first round, it took Benson till the 4th, after which he got gifted a decision against Masvidal. Definitely on the downslope.

All of that happened after he hit the 9 year mark in the game. That's generally the point where the wear and tear on the body starts degrading performances. Some people buck the trend, some veterans mask it with experience and savvy, but it works as a general guideline and Benson fits it perfectly.

Try it for some other fighters. Shogun lost to Jones in his 9th year of his career. Chuck Liddell got KO'd by Rampage in his 9th year of his career. Rampage himself lost to Forrest 9 years in. You'll be surprised to see just how many downslopes start there. Which isn't to say they can never win, but general athletic performance starts to drop and they lose fights they shouldn't.
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Good points all around. Not going to argue with u for the sake of it. Only thing is, downward slope is subjective and is interpreted differently. Benson did lose those fights u said he lost, but it's not like he was undefeated before that.. my take is that benson had enough to jump a weight class and get a pair of wins(one against a highly ranked ww)

My interpretation of "downward slope" is losing 5 in a row in the UFC like kos. Not winning against ranked fighters like benson.


We can disagree though.
 
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conor mcgregor nut hugger said:
I didn't mention Benson for the same reason I didn't mention former Bellator guys like Minakov or Machovsky, who had lost their respective belts inside one promotion (in their cases Bellator, in Benson's case the UFC) before leaving and signing with the other promotion.

There are 3 guys who are technically still Bellator champions, and only 1 of whom has had a halfway decent UFC run.
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So essentially, you are narrowing the scope of an argument so that it fits your narrative?
 
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HEATH VON DOOM said:
Answering a question with a question is never the right answer.
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I'll just go ahead and answer it for you my good man..

The "principle" I was referring to was... it always goes back to bellator as a whole against the UFC as a whole. This is highlighted by the fact that the op ended his post with
" Bellator is bush league"

Essentially, the op used microanalysis to draw macro conclusions, narrowing the scope of his argument.

What I did was try to use macro analysis to draw macro conclusions(you know, apples to apples), widening the scope of the argument.

I hope that makes sense to u.
 
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conor mcgregor nut hugger said:
I'm talking about fighters who left the promotion as the Bellator champion, not people who lost and then left:

Hector Lombard, mw champion: 3-5-1 in the UFC

Eddie Alvarez, lw champion: 3-2 in the UFC

Will Brooks, lw champion: 1-2 in the UFC

I've said it before and I'll say it again - Bellator is bush league.
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Bellator is the bush league but the UFC is fastly becoming WWE farm team
 
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Brooks got completely owned, he's lucky he's not 0-3 he got lucky with the judges against Pearson.
 
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