Society The Donald J. Trump Show - 4 more years editions

[Disciplined Galt]

I smell butthurt with the changing of the title of this thread......

I sense under appreciated whiners.

 

[Yossarian]

Hmmmm yeah ok. But the guy calling me names wasn't.
Such a biased fellow you are. Yikes.

Two wrongs don't make a right. You're always posting with a chip on your shoulder, unable to have effective debate. I just see you projecting.

You can call me whatever names, it won't change my day one bit. Discuss my opinion, and I may change it once convinced. Call me biased? I ask, what makes you think that? Because I think different than you? You think I am whatever you oppose? I think everybody with an opinion is somewhat biased one way or the other.

If you have a problem with name calling, then why do you copy such unwanted behavior?

 

[Freeloading Rusty]

I smell butthurt with the changing of the title of this thread......

This.

@Splinty why the name change?

Seems like a salty move by who ever did it.

 

[Freeloading Rusty]

Some good news out of the Trump camp. I hope the administration is successful in implementing paid family leave options. I couldnt imagine how hard it is for young parents who are lacking in resources or supports to have a kids with out paid parental leave. The first couple months of a babies life, the bonding and relationship build between parent and child has impact on the rest of that babies life.

Trump calls for more women's health care, paid family leave options

In a statement celebrating Women's Health Week, President Donald Trump on Sunday called on improving health care access for "quality prenatal, maternal, and newborn care," in addition to ensuring paid family leave for both mothers and fathers.

"Ensuring affordable, accessible, and quality health care is critical to improving women’s health and ensuring that it fits their priorities at any stage of life," Trump said in his statement, issued on Mother's Day.

"Under the current health-care system, however, the lack of choice in health insurance and in health-care providers, along with skyrocketing premium and out-of-pocket costs, are failing our citizens, our families, and, in particular, our women."

 

[Freeloading Rusty]

Under Trump, inconvenient data is being sidelined

The Trump administration has removed or tucked away a wide variety of information that until recently was provided to the public, limiting access, for instance, to disclosures about workplace violations, energy efficiency, and animal welfare abuses.

Some of the information relates to enforcement actions taken by federal agencies against companies and other employers. By lessening access, the administration is sheltering them from the kind of “naming and shaming” that federal officials previously used to influence company behavior, according to digital experts, activists and former Obama administration officials.

The Occupational Safety and Health Administration, for instance, has dramatically scaled back on publicizing its fines against firms. And the Agriculture Department has taken off-line animal welfare enforcement records, including abuses in dog breeding operations and horse farms that alter the gait of racehorses through the controversial practice of “soring” their legs.

In other cases, the administration appears to be dimming the prior spotlight on the background and conduct of top officials. The administration no longer publishes online the ethics waivers granted to appointees who would otherwise be barred from joining the government because of recent lobbying activities. Nor is the White House releasing logs of its visitors, making it difficult for the public to keep track of who is stopping by to see the president’s inner circle.

The administration has also removed websites and other material supporting Obama-era policies that the White House no longer embraces. Gone, for instance, is a White House Web page that directed prospective donors to private groups that aid refugees fleeing Syria and other embattled nations.

Officials also removed websites run by the Environmental Protection Agency and the Interior Department that provided scientific information about climate change, eliminating access. for instance, to documents evaluating the danger that the desert ecology in the Southwest could face from future warming. (On Friday, protesting against the disappearance of the EPA website, the city of Chicago posted the site online as it had existed under the Obama administration.)

And within a week of President Trump’s inauguration, the White House retired the two-year-old Federal Supplier Greenhouse Gas Management Scorecard, which ranks firms with major federal contracts on their energy efficiency and policies to curb carbon output.

“The President has made a commitment that his Administration will absolutely follow the law and disclose any information it is required to disclose,” said White House spokeswoman Kelly Love in an email Sunday.

 

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[Truck Party]

Some good news out of the Trump camp. I hope the administration is successful in implementing paid family leave options. I couldnt imagine how hard it is for young parents who are lacking in resources or supports to have a kids with out paid parental leave. The first couple months of a babies life, the bonding and relationship build between parent and child has impact on the rest of that babies life.

Trump calls for more women's health care, paid family leave options

seems irresponsible to have kids when you can't afford them

 

[Freeloading Rusty]

seems irresponsible to have kids when you can't afford them

I agree.

But not being able to take 8 months off work unpaid and not being able afford your children are two separate issues.

 

[Freeloading Rusty]

Children who spend that time with their mot

Lol the end of that video was hilarious. Ask the protesters a few questions about their stances and policies and they start stumbling over words and lack an ability to articulate themselves. Yell, yell, troll a bit and then walk away when asked to explain your stances on specific topics.

 

[Truck Party]

I agree.

But not being able to take 8 months off work unpaid and not being able afford your children are two separate issues.

Is that what he's calling for, 8 months off? Read the article, didn't see that in there, genuinely curious

Wonder who is going to be paying for this too, if it's the biz owner then good luck finding a career in your 20's. it'll be a great boon to people 50+ though

 

[Shinkicker]

I agree.

But not being able to take 8 months off work unpaid and not being able afford your children are two separate issues.

8 months?

 

[Freeloading Rusty]

Is that what he's calling for, 8 months off? Read the article, didn't see that in there, genuinely curious

Wonder who is going to be paying for this too, if it's the biz owner then good luck finding a career in your 20's. it'll be a great boon to people 50+ though

I was referring to our current Canadian parental leave system with the 8 months. I am not sure of the exact details on Trumps plans as he is often very vague with specific details.

The majority of other counties have some form of parental leave and young people are doing just fine starting their careers in their 20's.

The research on the benefits of having a parent stay home and take care of an infant as opposed to sending them to care or childcare during the first year of development is very clear how beneficial this is to the long term development of the child.

 

[Freeloading Rusty]

8 months?

Canadian system.

I recognize that is not the American style and might not be what Trump is proposing.

I think any additional supports to young parents is a postiive thing. Be it 8 months or 3 months.

Some parts of Canada are talking about extending our leave to up to 12-18 months.

 

[Shinkicker]

Canadian system.

I recognize that is not the American style and might not be what Trump is proposing.

I think any additional supports to young parents is a postiive thing. Be it 8 months or 3 months.

Some parts of Canada are talking about extending our leave to up to 12-18 months.

Damn!

What percentage of your paycheck goes to taxes?

 

[Freeloading Rusty]

Wonder who is going to be paying for this too,

Paid for through unemployment benefits.

Not sure how it works for you guys but up here, we pay a small portion to unemployment benefits off each cheque, so its not the govt paying for parental leaves but instead paid through the workers previous contributions.

 

[Shinkicker]

Canadian system.

I recognize that is not the American style and might not be what Trump is proposing.

I think any additional supports to young parents is a postiive thing. Be it 8 months or 3 months.

Some parts of Canada are talking about extending our leave to up to 12-18 months.

Is this through the employer? Like, what if you are out of a job and get
Pregnant, do you go sign up somewhere to get paid?

 

[Freeloading Rusty]

Damn!

What percentage of your paycheck goes to taxes?

The costs of parental leave dont come out of general taxes.

But about 30% of my cheque goes to taxes, employment insurance and pension plans.

 

[Freeloading Rusty]

Is this through the employer? Like, what if you are out of a job and get
Pregnant, do you go sign up somewhere to get paid?

You dont need paid parental leave if you are unemployed.

 

[Shinkicker]

You dont need paid parental leave if you are unemployed.

Ok so they get paid leave if they have a job. Do you have to work for a company a certain amount of time before you qualify for maternity leave?

 

[Shinkicker]

You dont need paid parental leave if you are unemployed.

I would say that you do "need" it. Lol

 

[Truck Party]

I was referring to our current Canadian parental leave system with the 8 months. I am not sure of the exact details on Trumps plans as he is often very vague with specific details.

The majority of other counties have some form of parental leave and young people are doing just fine starting their careers in their 20's.

The research on the benefits of having a parent stay home and take care of an infant as opposed to sending them to care or childcare during the first year of development is very clear how beneficial this is to the long term development of the child.

yep, sure it's all gravy & unicorns with no unintended consequences. not sure about Canada's demographics & don't care that much, but I'm assuming the other countries you referring to are European, where there are relatively few young people. Not a lot of options for a biz owner there

 

[Freeloading Rusty]

Ok so they get paid leave if they have a job. Do you have to work for a company a certain amount of time before you qualify for maternity leave?

Yes, you need to be employed. If you are not employed, you get to stay home with your baby already.

Yes, you have to work a set amount of time for a company before you are eligible for parental leave (parental as opposed to maternity because either the mother or the father can take the time off). You have to have paid into the system for so long before you are eligible for unemployment benefits. Parents also have to return to work for so many months before after a paternity leave before they are allowed to take another one.

 

[Shinkicker]

Yes, you need to be employed. If you are not employed, you get to stay home with your baby already.

Yes, you have to work a set amount of time for a company before you are eligible for parental leave (parental as opposed to maternity because either the mother or the father can take the time off). You have to have paid into the system for so long before you are eligible for unemployment benefits. Parents also have to return to work for so many months before after a paternity leave before they are allowed to take another one.

Is paying into this program optional?

 

[Freeloading Rusty]

I would say that you do "need" it. Lol

The point of paid parental leave is not to fund a young parent but instead to allow you to continue with your place of employment and continue the income security while you are on parental leave.

On parental leave, in Canada, you only get paid 55% (or so) of your wages but no taxes are taken off.

 

[Freeloading Rusty]

Is paying into this program optional?

No, this is not optional.

It is run through our employment insurance program, which is unemployment benefits.

If I was to get laid off from my job tomorrow, I could collect employment insurance (EI) for something like 6 months or so.. or until I find another job. You can only collect if you have been laid off and not fired or quit you job. You have to be actively looking for work while you collect EI and you have to be able to prove to the govt you are actively seeking new employment. Also, if you are collecting EI, you have to be open to taking similar jobs to your previous one at up to a 25% pay cut.

The EI fund in Canada is actually growing as opposed to being drained. It was at such a good spot, the govt (Liberals) actually started to skim money off the top of it to pay for other things it wasn't intended for, which pissed a lot of people off.