The pictures that Pride fanboys dont want you to see

[Rambo John J]

Making the leap from Pride and DREAM, Hunt wasn't prepared for the level of grappling you face in the UFC against submission wizards like Sean McCorkle.

dude hunt had a losing record at the time and was still learning MMA basics....LOL
He is an elite kick boxer from 20 years ago...give some props in between sips of haterade

 

[Onetrickpony]

Making the leap from Pride and DREAM, Hunt wasn't prepared for the level of grappling you face in the UFC against submission wizards like Sean McCorkle.

Say what you will about his submissions but McCorkle sure could write a great book review.

 

[Sex Chicken]

dude hunt had a losing record at the time and was still learning MMA basics....LOL
He is an elite kick boxer from 20 years ago...give some props in between sips of haterade

I said he "wasn't prepared". Do you think being submitted 1 minute into the first round by Sean McCorkle (no offense Sean) indicates a preparedness or a lack of preparedness?

 

[BeardOfKnowledge]

dude hunt had a losing record at the time and was still learning MMA basics....LOL

That statement does a lot more harm to Pride's legacy than it does the UFC's.

 

[Rambo John J]

I said he "wasn't prepared". Do you think being submitted 1 minute into the first round by Sean McCorkle (no offense Sean) indicates a preparedness or a lack of preparedness?

You are correct...he seemed quite unprepared that match.

 

[Rambo John J]

That statement does a lot more harm to Pride's legacy than it does the UFC's.

Only if you apply that stereotype to Mark Hunt a Kickboxer turned MMA with only Pride Record of 5 an 6 after 43 HW fights at the grueling HW/SHW of elite kickboxing....he then goes 8 and 7 in UFC.....beating mostly UFC made fighters and losing to mostly Pride/Strikeforce fighters.

I know you like to come at me with MMA knowledge but do some thinking first please....Thanks RJJ

 

[Limpy]

LOL @ the arguing.

 

[sparkuri]

 

[BeardOfKnowledge]

Only if you apply that stereotype to Mark Hunt a Kickboxer turned MMA with only Pride Record of 5 an 6 after 43 HW fights at the grueling HW/SHW of elite kickboxing....he then goes 8 and 7 in UFC.....beating mostly UFC made fighters and losing to mostly Pride/Strikeforce fighters.

I know you like to come at me with MMA knowledge but do some thinking first please....Thanks RJJ

As usual you're missing the point.

Let's follow your line of reasoning. "In 2010 McCorkle quickly subbed Hunt because Hunt was a kickboxer learning MMA's basics" Okay, sure I'll take your word for it. Now let's hop in the hot tub time machine and go back to 2006. If Pride was as good as advertised why would they have someone like that fighting for their heavyweight title? Why would it take Fedor 10 minutes to finish such a one dimensional fighter? How much does Fedor's 29 fight unbeaten streak really mean if he was fighting guys unaware of the sports basics? As I said, running down Mark Hunt's early UFC career reflects a lot more poorly on Pride than it does the UFC.

 

[Joemacka]

 

[Rambo John J]

As usual you're missing the point.

Let's follow your line of reasoning. "In 2010 McCorkle quickly subbed Hunt because Hunt was a kickboxer learning MMA's basics" Okay, sure I'll take your word for it. Now let's hop in the hot tub time machine and go back to 2006. If Pride was as good as advertised why would they have someone like that fighting for their heavyweight title? Why would it take Fedor 10 minutes to finish such a one dimensional fighter? How much does Fedor's 29 fight unbeaten streak really mean if he was fighting guys unaware of the sports basics? As I said, running down Mark Hunt's early UFC career reflects a lot more poorly on Pride than it does the UFC.

mccorkele comparison to Fedor?
really?
LOL
Gotta love your obscure arguments and points...very entertaining

 

[Rambo John J]

dan henderson was in UFC in the 90's dog

 

[member 3289]

If Pride was as good as advertised why would they have someone like that fighting for their heavyweight title?

Exactly. They were padding Fedor's record because their talent pool was very shallow.

 

[BeardOfKnowledge]

mccorkele comparison to Fedor?
really?
LOL
Gotta love your obscure arguments and points...very entertaining

I'm not comparing McCorkle to Fedor. I'm asking why if Mark Hunt (according to you) was so terrible in 2010. Why he would have been deserving of a title fight with the (alleged) GOAT in the organization that you're claiming to be superior 4 years prior. It's you throwing shade on Fedor's record, not me.

 

[Limpy]

I'm a huge fan of Pride but even I can admit that a lot of the fights made there were complete horseshit. If the so-called GOAT of the UFC was fighting a 7 foot googly eyed retard this forum would lose their minds. If the GOAT was fighting an obese dude with no fighting ability I don't think the forum would be calling that guy "the GOAT".

Bisping catches shit for not fighting the legit #1 contender yet Fedor fights cans for a lot of his career and he's the greatest of all time?

 

[Rambo John J]

Exactly. They were padding Fedor's record because their talent pool was very shallow.

To be fair they had freak show fights.
Fedor put his belt on the line against guys in excess of 350lbs+...nobody nowadays has the balls for that.
I think that should not be overlooked
Dude fought all types of different amazing martial artists and came out on top against almost all.
If you respect martial arts then just pay respect and preserve your honor.


Fedor shows honor how about you?







Fedor represents Martial Arts very well and if you can't respect him then that is a you problem.

Dude is a beast

 

[Rambo John J]

I'm not comparing McCorkle to Fedor. I'm asking why if Mark Hunt (according to you) was so terrible in 2010. Why he would have been deserving of a title fight with the (alleged) GOAT in the organization that you're claiming to be superior 4 years prior. It's you throwing shade on Fedor's record, not me.

cause mark hunt was a draw much like brock lesnar...one dimensional and a money maker.

respect a legend or don't...pick a side....LOL a fedor hater....what happened to you man?

 

[member 3289]

To be fair they had freak show fights.
Fedor put his belt on the line against guys in excess of 350lbs+...nobody nowadays has the balls for that.
I think that should not be overlooked
Dude fought all types of different amazing martial artists and came out on top against almost all.
If you respect martial arts then just pay respect and preserve your honor.


Fedor shows honor how about you?







Fedor represents Martial Arts very well and if you can't respect him then that is a you problem.

Dude is a beast

This is a copy-paste of a post I made about Fedor in another thread:

When did Fedor's prime end exactly? When he got subbed by Werdum? Because he was 33 years old when that happened. Silva, by contrast, was 38 when he got KTFO. 5 years is a big difference.

Here's a list of guys Fedor also beat during his time as "GOAT":

- Ryushi Yanagisawa
- Lee Hasdell
- Chris Haseman
- Egidijus Valavicius
- Kazayuki Fujita (after almost getting KTFO lol)
- Naoya Ogawa
- Tsuyoshi Kosaka
- ZULU FUCKING ZINHO
- Hong Man Choi
- Brett Rogers

And let's not talk about his past 5 opponents since his 3-fight losing streak lol.

But I am under no pretense that I am going to convince you or any other delusional Fedor fanboy of anything. Keep on thinking the guy who padded his record fighting circus acts before fizzling out at 33 years old is the GOAT.

 

[member 3289]

The fact is that people are obsessed with nostalgia to the point that it interferes with their memory.

These lunatics aren't lying (in their minds) when they talk about how great Pride was. They really believe it.

But when you look at Pride through a lens of reality rather than one of nostalgia, you see that NO, IT WAS NEVER AS GOOD AS THE UFC.

 

[Rambo John J]

This is a copy-paste of a post I made about Fedor in another thread:

When did Fedor's prime end exactly? When he got subbed by Werdum? Because he was 33 years old when that happened. Silva, by contrast, was 38 when he got KTFO. 5 years is a big difference.

Here's a list of guys Fedor also beat during his time as "GOAT":

- Ryushi Yanagisawa
- Lee Hasdell
- Chris Haseman
- Egidijus Valavicius
- Kazayuki Fujita (after almost getting KTFO lol)
- Naoya Ogawa
- Tsuyoshi Kosaka
- ZULU FUCKING ZINHO
- Hong Man Choi
- Brett Rogers

And let's not talk about his past 5 opponents since his 3-fight losing streak lol.

But I am under no pretense that I am going to convince you or any other delusional Fedor fanboy of anything. Keep on thinking the guy who padded his record fighting circus acts before fizzling out at 33 years old is the GOAT.

Dude.
Never said Fedor was the Goat...nothing of the sort
You said that.

I think UFC was not superior to other Orgs before they absorbed them and that is pretty clear cut.

Enjoy your little witch hunt for imaginary Lunatics...very funny

 

[Rambo John J]

Fully aware from the OP....just like to hear the Obsessed try drop knowledge about MMA legends...very entertaining....is reverse troll a thing?....I feel it is

 

[member 3289]

Dude.
Never said Fedor was the Goat...nothing of the sort
You said that.

I think UFC was not superior to other Orgs before they absorbed them and that is pretty clear cut.

Enjoy your little witch hunt for imaginary Lunatics...very funny

I was just too lazy to edit the details of the post. It was originally a reply to the redneck admin @Wild, whose Kentucky education has him thinking Fedor was the GOAT.

 

[benjo0101]

Say what you will about his submissions but McCorkle sure could write a great book review.

He is also one of the funniest people I have ever listened to on MMA Roasted, so funny, the guy gives zero shits

 

[BeardOfKnowledge]

cause mark hunt was a draw much like brock lesnar...one dimensional and a money maker.

1) Lol @ comparing Hunt to Lesnar. Lesnar won and defended a title.
2) A major criticism of Lesnar was that he shouldn't have been "gifted" his title shot. I'm not sure how you reconcile that saying Pride did the same thing would support your position.

respect a legend or don't...pick a side....LOL a fedor hater....what happened to you man?

It was you that said Mark Hunt was terrible and that Pride would put undeserving fighters in the ring against Fedor. I simply asked what that means for Fedor's legacy.

 

[Rambo John J]

1) Lol @ comparing Hunt to Lesnar. Lesnar won and defended a title.
2) A major criticism of Lesnar was that he shouldn't have been "gifted" his title shot. I'm not sure how you reconcile that saying Pride did the same thing would support your position.



It was you that said Mark Hunt was terrible and that Pride would put undeserving fighters in the ring against Fedor. I simply asked what that means for Fedor's legacy.

you continue to misquote or misrepresent my comments.

Just curious...how old are you?...did you actually see any pride events?

Or are you just reading the fighters records online?

I personally never said anything about Lesnar being gifted so why bring that up?


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Where in this comment did I say Mark Hunt was "Horrible"?

"dude hunt had a losing record at the time and was still learning MMA basics....LOL
He is an elite kick boxer from 20 years ago...give some props in between sips of haterade"

I dealt with facts not adjectives. You threw in an adjective and claim I said it and then disagree with it.

Pretty odd style of communication if you ask me.