Why would there be?
This reminds me of the time some Trump supporters doxxxed a shit load of anti Trump protesters.
Trump Supporters Have Built A Document With The Addresses And Phone Numbers Of Thousands Of Anti-Trump Activists
Trump Supporters Have Built A Document With The Addresses And Phone Numbers Of Thousands Of Anti-Trump Activists
Funny thing is they claim Trump supporters are just a bunch of dumb rednecks.
CNN tried to play hardball with the internet and they lost horribly.
Do those Trump supporters have a 24/7 news network fully staffed to spread thier message?
Are you really trying to suggest that the only thing wrong with doxing and targeting people in real life is the amount of people you share it with?
The story goes like this :
NEVER BET AGAINST THE INTERNET
Are you really holding the same moral/integrity standards to random Reddit members as you would a news network?
Nothing other than one event reminding me of the other.
No they dont.
Did I insinuate they did?
When it comes to circling a list of peoples real names, home addresses, and phone numbers, sure.
So you support cnn and their bully mentality and them playing the victim card when it backfires?
The first rule of internetting is when you start fighting with the trolls you already lost.
Lol sure.
If you got doxxed here you'd cry for a perma ban no doubt. If you got doxxed by a major news network your level of rage would be simply equal?
It's nice to know you don't think it's a problem at all.Lol sure.
If you got doxxed here you'd cry for a perma ban no doubt. If you got doxxed by a major news network your level of rage would be simply equal?
That info has been freely available on 4chan for quite some time
You Momo's still upset about this?
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I like that Trump triggered you so badly to alter your entire reality and view of the universe. Everything is Trump or anti-Trump.
Yes. Moral standards exist because they are meant to be uniform. The moral issue here isn't whether corporate doxing is bad vs user doxing, but whether doxing or the threat of it is.
As I mentioned a few posts up, legal liabilities and protections vary somewhat with media entities. To me, CNN acted distastefully because their feeling that they should defend themselves in such a way is pretty ludicrous, but the story they are in effect sitting on is outing an anonymous actor operating in the public sphere, which has plenty of precedents in media like people trying to discover the identity of the creator of bitcoin or who banksy is. Ostensibly media has latitude to seek answers to these questions because it's in the public interest (i.e. curiosity).
But it's sleazy. And publishing a story gloating about it is even sleazier. What mystifies me about this whole thing though is how there seems to be a general sentiment that a media company is the "bad guy" and the state is "the good guy" masquerading under a vague premise of sticking up for the little guy. Media is now in this broad catch all of "elites" while a corporatist government is seen as worthy of defending, which was the point of the meme maker himself in his original meme.
CNN has been due a comeuppance for years for various reasons, but this situation has been deliberately signal boosted by various media companies and corporate actors with their own agendas for wanting them discredited (the state among them). It's a political position to side with that faction because they are contesting this incident on political grounds.
What has always disturbed me most when people get into squabbles on digital platforms is that there is a notion that it is "the internet" vs. X. As if the internet weren't itself made up of various interest groups, political ideologues and corporate actors, or worse, as if it was equivalent to the idea of We the People when it's usually just one interest group today and another tomorrow.
Tl/dr: CNN acted foolishly. People outraged about it should at least be consistent.
I think that sounds nice on the surface and in theory but it's no way one should expect society to act. What's your definition of uniform? At what age or point in someone's life are they expected to have these morals to stand by regardless of who they are or what they do for a living? I'd like to think that most people would recognize doxxing a threat, I didn't even think that was being questioned here.
For myself this has little if any to do with the state. I haven't viewed this as CNN vs Trump or whoever you are referencing. I see this as CNN using intimidation tactics to silence somebody over a gif they didn't like.
My definition of uniform has to do with the standards themselves, not the individual committing them. Whether it's forgivable for a mentally disabled person to randomly punch someone in the face because they don't know any better does not change the moral reality of the situation, i.e. it is not acceptable to punch someone in the face. You said can a media company be held to the same moral standard as a bunch of reddit users (in either case an assemblage of individuals) and the answer is yes. Doxing is either bad on the face of it, or it isn't. Whether it's legally permissible or whether there are caveats that might permit it (as with the mentally handicapped person punching a person in the face) is a separate matter with more room for shades of gray.
I agree with your characterization of CNN's actions. My comments about the state vs the media are just my own tangentially related musings because I find this political moment so curious.
Well, it's very simple, who is attacking the little guy? Also, it's a result of a growing sentiment against the media. We are in trouble if we believe the government over the media, but that is basically where we are at.
You make a joke on this site. Joke goes viral. Crazy prez tweets it. Success yay? Nay. Because out there a media outlet is going after you now. The state, or defending this corporate state, has little to do with it.
While Trump's stock cannot plummet any further, CNN is still a business, and has the responsibility to report on the news, but they're taking on water because they are not focused on reporting the news. They are on an alledged witch hunt, which as of now, does not only include Trump.
How can the media lose so much with a president as Trump? It is practically a gold mine, viewership galore! But I feel they are on this crusade for justice, a misplaced, self-appointed cross to bear. While all they have to do is report and let Trump do the rest.