General Comey’s private memos on Trump conversations contained classified material

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drjones

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will this finally bring an end to that whole russia thing so trump can get back to work creating a joint cybersecurity task force with putin?

only time will tell.

(btw dont get too attached to this story, its nonsense)
 

Belobog

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It's crazy how people who constantly complain about fake news seem to distribute it the most.

Article also contains my favorite phrase twice.

"officials familiar with the documents."
"officials directly familiar with the matter"
 
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Robbie Hart

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There is always so much evidence yet fuck all ever happens......it's hilarious
 

drjones

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There is always so much evidence yet fuck all ever happens......it's hilarious
please post the evidence that proves comey broke the law or released classified information regarding the memos in question.

it sounds like there is a lot so i will be reasonable - just post some of it.
 

Robbie Hart

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please post the evidence that proves comey broke the law or released classified information regarding the memos in question.

it sounds like there is a lot so i will be reasonable - just post some of it.
i'm talking in general.................i couldn't care less. nothing will happen with anyone in public office, ever..........unless they are just a cunty fool
 

drjones

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i'm talking in general.................i couldn't care less. nothing will happen with anyone in public office, ever..........unless they are just a cunty fool
ah gotcha, this just happens to be a bad time to make that point since there is literally no evidence.
 

Splinty

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Tweeting out what's in the reported in the news media is no more libelous then the news media printing the story.

It's a mental gymnastics that starts with a false dichotomy.

James comey's memo can both be inaccurate and contain classified information.

And again, it's not libelous to tweet what is publicly reported as fact.

The news could be wrong and subsequently so could Trump. But this all falls far far far short of being libelous.
 

drjones

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Tweeting out what's in the reported in the news media is no more libelous then the news media printing the story.

It's a mental gymnastics that starts with a false dichotomy.

James comey's memo can both be inaccurate and contain classified information.

And again, it's not libelous to tweet what is publicly reported as fact.

The news could be wrong and subsequently so could Trump. But this all falls far far far short of being libelous.
do you have a link to a public report that states comey leaked classified information to the media?

there may be one, but the 2 stories that im pretty sure directly caused trump's tweet do not claim that.

there also may be some additional problem because of trump's position and his ability to know whether or not that statement is true regardless of whether or not the media have satisfactorily proven it.
 

drjones

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im really not that interested in the libel angle anyway, i just think it goes to show how disingenuous and uninterested in truth trump is.

he will say anything if he thinks it will play well with his base, even if he knows its horseshit, he has always done it and he continues to do it as president, im surprised anyone thought it was going to change.
 

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Someone wake me up when I can enlist for the Space Marines.
I've been trying to join the army astronaut program ever since I learned about it...




Unfortunately I'm up against this guy
Jonny Kim - Wikipedia

Jonny Kim is a NASA astronaut candidate of the class of 2017. He is a Navy SEAL with over 100 combat operations. He is a recipient of the Silver Starand a Bronze Star (with Valor device). After leaving the SEAL Teams, he completed a degree in Mathematics graduating summa cum laude from the University of San Diego, and a doctorate from Harvard Medical School.

Lol

That dude is so impressive it makes me sick.
 

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please post the evidence that proves comey broke the law or released classified information regarding the memos in question.

it sounds like there is a lot so i will be reasonable - just post some of it.
were they government docs, & thus leaking them against FBI rules?
 

Truck Party

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were they government docs, & thus leaking them against FBI rules?
here's Jonathan Turley

Yes, the memos were classified. OPINION: Why does the media still portray James Comey as a hero?

If Comey did leak government property, a third issue was whether the information was considered classified. Once again, the classified status does not determine if this was a leak (it was) or if it was government information (it was). However, many experts insisted that the material was clearly unclassified.

Comey’s representation of the unclassified status struck me as highly questionable at the time. I noted that the information would have likely been classified on some level, including “confidential” under governing standards. Moreover, FBI employees are not given free license (or sole authority) to write things in an “unclassified fashion.” That is why there are classification reviews. Information coming out of meetings with the president are routinely classified, let alone information deemed material to pending investigations.

As I noted earlier, the standards that Comey enforced as director belied his own account. The FBI restricts material generated in relation to investigations as “FBI information.” FBI rules cover any “documents reflecting advisory opinions, recommendations and deliberations comprising part of a process by which governmental decisions and policies are formulated.” Under the Freedom of Information Act, the FBI routinely claims this type of information as either classified or privileged or both.

Comey however repeatedly assured the Senate that there was nothing classified or privileged in the memos. In an exchange with Sen. Mark Warner (D-Va.), Comey said, “Well, I remember thinking, this is a very disturbing development, really important to our work. I need to document it and preserve it in a way — and — and this committee gets this, but sometimes when things are classified, it tangles them up. It’s hard…” Then Warner interrupted to say, “Amen.”

However, the issue was not the writing of the memos but their removal from the FBI and their leaking to the media. There is a reason why “sometimes when things are classified, it tangles them up.” It is called classification review. That does not give you license to transfer the information into a separate document and declare it a “Dear Diary” entry. That is a loose interpretation that Comey as FBI director never afforded to his subordinates and it would effectively gut the rules governing privileged and classified information.
 

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here's Jonathan Turley

Yes, the memos were classified. OPINION: Why does the media still portray James Comey as a hero?

If Comey did leak government property, a third issue was whether the information was considered classified. Once again, the classified status does not determine if this was a leak (it was) or if it was government information (it was). However, many experts insisted that the material was clearly unclassified.

Comey’s representation of the unclassified status struck me as highly questionable at the time. I noted that the information would have likely been classified on some level, including “confidential” under governing standards. Moreover, FBI employees are not given free license (or sole authority) to write things in an “unclassified fashion.” That is why there are classification reviews. Information coming out of meetings with the president are routinely classified, let alone information deemed material to pending investigations.

As I noted earlier, the standards that Comey enforced as director belied his own account. The FBI restricts material generated in relation to investigations as “FBI information.” FBI rules cover any “documents reflecting advisory opinions, recommendations and deliberations comprising part of a process by which governmental decisions and policies are formulated.” Under the Freedom of Information Act, the FBI routinely claims this type of information as either classified or privileged or both.

Comey however repeatedly assured the Senate that there was nothing classified or privileged in the memos. In an exchange with Sen. Mark Warner (D-Va.), Comey said, “Well, I remember thinking, this is a very disturbing development, really important to our work. I need to document it and preserve it in a way — and — and this committee gets this, but sometimes when things are classified, it tangles them up. It’s hard…” Then Warner interrupted to say, “Amen.”

However, the issue was not the writing of the memos but their removal from the FBI and their leaking to the media. There is a reason why “sometimes when things are classified, it tangles them up.” It is called classification review. That does not give you license to transfer the information into a separate document and declare it a “Dear Diary” entry. That is a loose interpretation that Comey as FBI director never afforded to his subordinates and it would effectively gut the rules governing privileged and classified information.
Comey needs to realize he is no longer head of the FBI. And Trump is still president. He should've played ball with the big boys. House of motherfucking cards Comey, so you watch it!
 

Gay For Longo

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will this finally bring an end to that whole russia thing so trump can get back to work creating a joint cybersecurity task force with putin?

only time will tell.

(btw dont get too attached to this story, its nonsense)
The whole Russia thing is done if you've been paying attention
The Russia bs was hanging on by a thread and that thread was called guciffer 2
If you don't know, there is no guciffer 2, there was no hack, it was a leak
 

Gay For Longo

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please post the evidence that proves comey broke the law or released classified information regarding the memos in question.

it sounds like there is a lot so i will be reasonable - just post some of it.
You are aware that Comey admitted to giving out some of those memos to somebody right?
 

Gay For Longo

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i'm talking in general.................i couldn't care less. nothing will happen with anyone in public office, ever..........unless they are just a cunty fool
Awesome, good thing both killary and Comey have proven themselves as cunty fools
 

drjones

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You are aware that Comey admitted to giving out some of those memos to somebody right?
some of them? how many? has he said anything else specific about them, maybe at that public hearing? that seems like it would have been a good time to clear some of this up, if only there was some way to know...
 

drjones

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The whole Russia thing is done if you've been paying attention
The Russia bs was hanging on by a thread and that thread was called guciffer 2
If you don't know, there is no guciffer 2, there was no hack, it was a leak
please tell me about how the DNC ordered a hit on seth rich next, i love that story...