Jones may *be innocent. (*edited)

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Papi Chingon

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None of this makes sense to me......the failed test. Is he really that stupid that he would take something on or very close to fight night knowing he would definitely be tested no matter what?
The half life is 16 hours, that has nothing to do with how long it is detectable with modern day testing. As I said earoier, if they want to do real testing, carbon testing, they can find it a year and a half later.
 

jason73

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maybe cormiers team cut an eightball with some PEDs and dropped it right by jons car knowing he couldnt pass up a gift from god

the guy would do a dance of joy and buck out some rails on a cd case right on the spot.mission accomplished

i have the documents

 

jason73

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The half life is 16 hours, that has nothing to do with how long it is detectable with modern day testing. As I said earoier, if they want to do real testing, carbon testing, they can find it a year and a half later.
if they were serious they would do hair follicle tests like the courts do and have your entire history of everything you have done for the life of your hair.shaving it off is not an option and taken as an admission of guilt.the fact that better testing exists and is not being used even for repeat offenders makes it look like they dont really care about PEDs in the sport.if you fail once they should impose harsher testing when they come off suspension.first offence for failing regular piss test 1 year and when you come back carbon testing fail again 2 years and when you come back carbon testing out of your own pocket.if you fail again go sell real estate
 

Papi Chingon

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if they were serious they would do hair follicle tests like the courts do and have your entire history of everything you have done for the life of your hair.shaving it off is not an option and taken as an admission of guilt.the fact that better testing exists and is not being used even for repeat offenders makes it look like they dont really care about PEDs in the sport.if you fail once they should impose harsher testing when they come off suspension.first offence for failing regular piss test 1 year and when you come back carbon testing fail again 2 years and when you come back carbon testing out of your own pocket.if you fail again go sell real estate
With hair testing, they can still snatched your eyebrows, eyelashes, and ant other hair you have; it doesn't need to be on top of your head. For any man plucking the hair off his toe knuckles, lifetime ban (as if it wouldn't be enough for a man waxing his legs, arms etc...).
 

jason73

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With hair testing, they can still snatched your eyebrows, eyelashes, and ant other hair you have; it doesn't need to be on top of your head. For any man plucking the hair off his toe knuckles, lifetime ban (as if it wouldn't be enough for a man waxing his legs, arms etc...).
you know you fucked up when jeff novitzky is plucking a hair from around your butthole
 

Papi Chingon

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maybe cormiers team cut an eightball with some PEDs and dropped it right by jons car knowing he couldnt pass up a gift from god

the guy would do a dance of joy and buck out some rails on a cd case right on the spot.mission accomplished

i have the documents

He wouldn't pass up an 8 ball if he knew herpes, aids, and cancer was in it. Let's not kid ourselves.
 

KWingJitsu

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Until hitler is tried and convicted we can only assume he was merely an author and not guilty of mass murder

Any other accusations will make me fuherious
WTF happened to the "Creative" rating on this forum. For this deserves it...
 

WoodenPupa

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None of this makes sense to me......the failed test. Is he really that stupid that he would take something on or very close to fight night knowing he would definitely be tested no matter what?
This is why I think we're dealing with some enhanced detection technique. IIRC USADA said last year that they had advanced testing available that could detect substances months after they were used, at least in some cases. They may not have used the same test for the one that popped Jones that they did when testing him during camp.

All speculation of course, but it's clear that there are other scenarios possible besides the one mentioned by his friend. We're by no means forced to believe Jon took the Turinabol a day before the fight. More than likely, he had a cycle going for a while and stopped well in advance of the weigh-in test. He probably technically passed the tests given up to that point, but one of them flagged as suspicious and hence another, more advanced test was ordered for the post-weigh in, and that's the one that popped him.
 

lueVelvet

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The same JBJ who wanted to be BFF's with D.C. after the fight?? I think I said it in another thread but JBJ does mean well but his ego always gets in the way of him truly being a good person and not fuck up. Let's see what the results say but everything I've seen from this dude shows a sociopathic personality which is never to be trusted. I'm related to people like this and I haven't talked with them for years now because you can never trust anything they say and usually it leads to more drama that it's worth.
 

Lukewarm Carl

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Frank Lester is a striking coach now? Isn't that the guy that had his teeth busted out on TUF that ended up "allegedly" beating up a girlfriend in Maryland and then fleeing the state to avoid arrest?
 

Freeloading Rusty

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None of this makes sense to me......the failed test. Is he really that stupid that he would take something on or very close to fight night knowing he would definitely be tested no matter what?
When you take into Jon Jones history and level of arrogance, I wouldn't doubt it.
 

Andrewsimar Palhardass

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There is a procedure in place so let's remind ourselves that it's easy to criticize and see what comes of all this. We don't have to like the guy but let's not go spreading negativity, if he's guilty then he'll get what's coming to him and if it's a mix up then we can see him continue to compete.
You were never going to get good responses for this.

I agree with you, for the most part.