Here's an article by an Australian news source about the huge spike in gun crime in Melbourne. Apparently it's doubled in the last 10 years. I'll allow you to draw your own conclusions on the effectiveness of gun bans.
I'd rather know the correlation between those things and violence, not gun violence.
Fair enough but violence is one of those things that has levels to it and in some instances is a bit inconsequential. Gun violence tends to end in firearms discharging...and seeing as some people think gun violence is taking over america, maybe it's worth mulling over.
They banned guns, violent crime didn't go down, people started using knives. They banned knives over a certain length, violent crime didn't go down, people started using acid (yes, I'm fucking serious) So yesterday: Britain to limit acid sales after steep rise in assaults
People think that because we treat gun gun violence worse than other types. For persepctive:
Classic diversion tactic from guntards (using "violent crime" in place of "homicide").
Thanks for posting that. The few people I've talked to all point to AUS but don't seem to be up on the latest that you've posted.
It's actually the opposite. Shooting someone to death is no worse than stabbing them to death. If you ban guns, and your murder rate doesn't decrease, it means the ban wasn't effective.
I don't think a gun ban in the U.S. would be effective, either. Like
@the_b00ts said, confiscation of all privately owned firearms would be the only way, but that's a logistical impossibility.
I was "why does anyone need a gun for most of my life" a few years ago I started actually investigating statistics and all of a sudden I became completely incapable of rationalizing the gun control argument. The statistics just don't support the emotions people have,
Fair enough and good to look into it. On the other hand I saw you post "adults don't wear jogging pants ffs..." in another thread so I have to second guess everything now.
Well, there are 3 things. 1) What was the homicide rate before the introduction of gun laws? Was it like Japan where it's always been a tiny number? Is it like the UK where the ban had no effect on homicide rate? 2) Switzerland exists has the smallest homicide rate, and the people there own a fuck ton of guns. 3) If memory serves, the U.S. had the highest decrease in homicides among developed nations since the mid 90's.
Sweet mislabeled graph.
Gun control was a requirement for slavery. It's a big part of why slaves weren't considered people (so the constitution didn't protect them) and why later Jim Crow laws prevented them from owning guns during segregation. The Democrats have come up with some really creative stuff to try to shaft black people over the years.
Agree but the results are actually worse for the US in most cases if you are just talking straight homicide rate. Other countries go up obviously, but the US goes up even more.
He's Canadian.
Congress banned the CDC from researching gun violence. That's a fake chart.I'm just trying to understand why you would trust the state for protection over yourself.
It's practically the same thing as being Bangladeshi.
Fuck, I'm gonna buy a gun right now. If you put it that way.
