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Freeloading Rusty

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Numbers Disagree With Trump Golf Course Claim Of 'Millions To Charity'


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NPR's "Embedded" podcast team examined charitable giving by Trump National Golf Club, Los Angeles. It found the organization appears to have fallen short of its bold claims of philanthropic giving.

DAVID GREENE, HOST:

President Trump has made some bold claims about his charitable giving over the years, and those claims do not always match up with reality. At Donald Trump's California golf course, NPR has found that the golf club has exaggerated or misstated its philanthropic giving in several ways. And after we started asking questions, the golf club took down their claims of philanthropy from their website. Tom Dreisbach is a producer for the NPR podcast Embedded. He's been looking into this and joins me now. Hey there, Tom.

TOM DREISBACH, BYLINE: Hey, David.

GREENE: I guess start by telling me about this golf course and what they were claiming.

DREISBACH: So this is Trump National Golf Club, Los Angeles. It's actually just outside the city of LA. It's an amazing property that Trump has owned since about 2002, and on their website, they claimed that they had given approximately $5 million to a variety of charitable causes, and they listed about 200 organizations that they said they had given money to.

GREENE: And what did you find was the truth?

DREISBACH: So we examined this list that was on the website. We cross-referenced that with a publicly available document that the Trump campaign had put out where they essentially just listed out all of their donations over the years, and that included some donations from the golf club. But when we looked at the golf club's website, they included some organizations that weren't on that document. So that got us to look a little bit closer.

We started contacting those organizations, emailing, making phone calls. And what we found very quickly is that a number of them - about 17 in total - said they had received no donations at all or at least had no record of such a donation. That included the California Department of Veterans Affairs. It included the Alisa Ann Ruch Burn Foundation, which supports children who have suffered severe burns. And then the donations we could verify were almost entirely in-kind donations for a round of golf or a gift certificate for a Sunday brunch for two.

GREENE: Well, what are these charities saying about this whole thing?

DREISBACH: Well, there were some charities that had actually received significant cash donations in the range of about $10,000 to $15,000. That includes the local land conservancy, the local chamber of commerce, local Kiwanis group that said they got some money for a local marathon. They also - they were very grateful. And then for the organizations that were included but had no record of donation, you know, it ranged from frustration that they would be included on this list without their knowledge to just confusion.

GREENE: Well, if the original number that was suggested was $5 million, is there any way to add up actually what was given by this golf club?

DREISBACH: What we were able to account for is about $800,000 in donations - far short of that $5 million number. Now, the Trump Organization did not make any contact with us. They refused to answer any phone calls, emails. And one possibility is that they are claiming a conservation easement, which is a sort of controversial tax break that you can take. Basically, The Trump Organization said that their driving range, they were going to preserve it as open space in perpetuity. It's sort of a way of preserving open space and habitat, but in fact, as one charity expert told me, the driving range is still a driving range, so it doesn't really pass the smell test in terms of a charitable gift.

GREENE: Doesn't pass the smell test, but, I mean, technically, they could in theory argue that holding that as an open space was an extraordinary gift to society, to the world.

DREISBACH: That would be the claim that they were making, yes. They simply haven't answered our questions, and so they could clarify all this, but we just haven't heard anything back from them.

GREENE: Tom Dreisbach is a producer for the NPR podcast Embedded. Tom, thanks.

DREISBACH: Thank you.
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Zeph

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How does it get to the point that people think a grieving widow is lying?
 
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Sep 23, 2015
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I thought the "he knew what he signed up for" thing was strange, because people routinely say that in a positive way about troops so it depends on the context.

People assumed Trump said something like "hey, your son knew what he signed up for so don't come crying to me", when he could have said it to emphasize her son's bravery and sacrifice, as I've heard many people do in the past.

It really just sounded like the typical spin hit-piece CNN and MSNBC routinely do on Trump.
 
Belobog

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MMAHAWK said:
What a shock


'It Stuns Me': Kelly Blasts Congresswoman for Listening to 'Sacred' Call Between Trump and Widow
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What stuns me is Kelly aiding and abetting the use of his son's death as a political tool.

Kelly basically confirmed the congresswoman and family's account of the call that Trump denied in defense of Trump. Makes no sense. The Congresswoman was asked to be there by the family. She was a close personal friend of the family and Sgt. Johnson, who she mentored through a program she started for kids in her community. It is not for Kelly to judge who the family wants to be with them.

It looks like it went down like this. Kelly tried to convince Trump not to make these calls because they can be a difficult and delicate situation. He told him even Obama didn't call everybody. Trump repeats this in public as "Obama didn't call anybody" in his typical hyperbolic way and stirs this whole thing up.

Trump referred to La David as "your guy" in the phone call. All Trump had to do was have some empathy, remember the La David Johnson's name, not try to politicize these phone calls and none of this would be happening.
 
Truck Party

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I've been reading the NY Times 'Red Century' series b/c I find watching people on the left defending communism hilarious & enlightening in a lot of ways, but this might be the stupidest thing I've ever read

 
KWingJitsu

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Belobog said:
What stuns me is Kelly aiding and abetting the use of his son's death as a political tool.

Kelly basically confirmed the congresswoman and family's account of the call that Trump denied in defense of Trump. Makes no sense. The Congresswoman was asked to be there by the family. She was a close personal friend of the family and Sgt. Johnson, who she mentored through a program she started for kids in her community. It is not for Kelly to judge who the family wants to be with them.

It looks like it went down like this. Kelly tried to convince Trump not to make these calls because they can be a difficult and delicate situation. He told him even Obama didn't call everybody. Trump repeats this in public as "Obama didn't call anybody" in his typical hyperbolic way and stirs this whole thing up.

Trump referred to La David as "your guy" in the phone call. All Trump had to do was have some empathy, remember the La David Johnson's name, not try to politicize these phone calls and none of this would be happening.
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He knows his job ain't safe - just trying to get brownie points...
 
IschKabibble

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CNN doom and gloom at its finest. Record unemployment (among countless other numbers) and it's something they want us to worry about.

Is the unemployment rate too low?

America's job market is bit like the porridge in Goldilocks. You don't want it to get too hot or too cold. It needs to be just right.

Some experts believe it's starting to get too hot. The U.S. unemployment rate fell to 4.3% in May, according to Labor Department numbers published Friday. It's the lowest level since 2001.

That's why some experts think the U.S. economy is at, or getting close to, something called "full employment," which means employers can't find many more available and qualified workers for open jobs.

There is no exact number where economists can definitively say the U.S. job market has reached full employment. But once the U.S. hits it -- wherever that mark is -- some economists say there are risks to U.S. economic growth

Is the unemployment rate too low?
 
Zeph

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KWingJitsu said:
Did I say he wasn't horrible or a war criminal?
Point: This "horrible war criminal" is more popular than Trump.
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Which is fucking ridiculous. Trump is an arsehole, but he hasn't got over a million dead bodies on him.
 
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Sep 23, 2015
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I love how certain people are acting like racism didn't exist before Trump. Also funny when people say he's dividing the country, or that he's divisive - like EVERYONE agreed with all the presidents that came before Trump, but it's only now some people love the president and some people hate him.

George Bush Jr is going through this new image change - he's going on Jimmy Kimmel, he makes fun of himself, he's personable, he's making art and giving the proceeds to charity, he's smashing Trump. People forget what a horrible fuck up he was as president and the awful ripple effects of the war he started that we're still feeling today.
 
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