You're not allowed to have supplements tested and in some instances USADA certified labs have had contaminated supplements.
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lol I dunno
I just don't buy the tainted sups excuse...seems like the go to regardless of your usage nowadays
OK well, that is above my paygrade
If you were allowed to have supplements tested you could bring them in laced with PED's and keep having them tested until you found a blend that wouldn't test positive.
I thought those were the stakes if they met in the pride tounement?
it comes down to degree of fault.
If i take something from a reputable brand, that has been third party batch tested and carries a certification, and it turns out to be contaminated, then my degree of fault is minimal, if any and the result would be probably no more than a warning. Could I have reasonably suspected the product would be "contaminated". No, because I had taken every possible precaution.
if i visit Max Gains Anobolic Emporium online and buy Dr Shredded's "Super Max Testosterone Booster" and that turns out to be contaminated then my degree of fault is considerably higher. Could I have reasonably suspected that the product may contain unlisted prohibited substances? Yes.. probably..
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Could Lyman Good have known that something from a well known brand marketed as vitamin and amino acid would have unlisted prohibited substances? Probably not (although the brand has known in the past to produce dodgy shit), he got a very short penalty
Could Tim Means have suspected that something called "HGH-X" contained unlisted prohibited substances? Probably. he got a longer suspension.
Could Jon Jones have known that a generic pill from a box marked "Research chemical - not for human consumption" contain unlisted prohibited substances? Hell yes, which is why he got zero reduction in his sentance.
Its all down to what degree of fault you are determined to have.
In Andersons case, he bought supplements from a pharmacy that mixed their own supplements in house. Despite their claims of everything being safe its well known that pharmacies can be pretty slack when it comes to cross contamination. The same equipment is used to measure or weigh countless products and they certainly dont do a full clean down between runs.
So if buying something from MusclePharm that has been batch tested and verified free of prohibited substances is a 1 on the risk scale.. and buying Dr Shredded's super max testosterone booster is a 10 on the risk scale, visiting a pharmacy that mix all their own stuff in store is probably a 5 on the risk scale.
hence a degree of fault on teh part of the athlete.
not sure where you get the idea you arent allowed to have supplements tested. SMRTL, UCLA are private labs, they are not owned or controlled by USADA. If I want to walk into SMRTL and request testing of something I can.. If im prepared to pay for it.
detection of a substance in a raw product and detection of a substance excreted or metabolised would be pretty different to be honest.. Testing the supplement you would look for the actual substance, but testing in an anti doping sense you may be testing for a metabolite rather than the actual substance.
but anyway, you dont need to. There are groups like Informed-Choice.org and NSF who batch test tens of hundreds of supplements and certify them as free of prohibited substances.
Anything carrying these logos has been third party tested
interestingly, the UFC's own supplement sponsor "performance inspired" (which happen to be part funded by WME/IMG) have all their products tested and certfied by informed-choice.
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You called Jason an inbred redneck, trying to be racist yourself. These are often coupled, and aimed at white people for the most part, as racist slang. I've seen both in many races btw.
Because it has worked. Both Anderson and Usada have now a way out of this mess. Behind the curtains, they'll figure out how to keep the coin rolling. Because USADA has been too effective for it's own good. Absolutely nobody has benefitted from it, except for the clean opponents. What was to be for public image only, has come and bite them in the ass.
No more Brock? No more Jones? No more Spider? oops...
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That could be interesting, sure go for it.
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Informative yet uncomfortable. Thank you
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It’s why they pay me the big bucks to post here
Keep fighting the good fight my friend.
Earning that check very well. My day has significantly improved with a topic to break any silence that occurs.
It's as good as you're going to get, but third party testing doesn't guarantee your supplements can't still be tainted. Jeff Novitzky has discussed both that and the inability of having WADA lab testing done by individuals at length.not sure where you get the idea you arent allowed to have supplements tested. SMRTL, UCLA are private labs, they are not owned or controlled by USADA. If I want to walk into SMRTL and request testing of something I can.. If im prepared to pay for it.
detection of a substance in a raw product and detection of a substance excreted or metabolised would be pretty different to be honest.. Testing the supplement you would look for the actual substance, but testing in an anti doping sense you may be testing for a metabolite rather than the actual substance.
but anyway, you dont need to. There are groups like Informed-Choice.org and NSF who batch test tens of hundreds of supplements and certify them as free of prohibited substances.
Anything carrying these logos has been third party tested
interestingly, the UFC's own supplement sponsor "performance inspired" (which happen to be part funded by WME/IMG) have all their products tested and certfied by informed-choice.
What's about WMMA? any prospects there?
That was after he started up with the bullshit talk, I was giving him a taste of his own bullshit, timelines how do they work?
Try to keep up, I was illustrating that it is bullshit to go that route. I was simply posting about Anderson not being able to go Matrix anymore, totally respectable stuff, and he went the racist route, so I retorted to show him that it is bullshit to go that route.
Of course you want to just start with my post and ignore all that.
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Nope. Just pointing out that you're as racist as Jason. Try to keep up.
Iranians lack the part of the frontal lobe that allows them to recognize and accept thier own actions. Dr yamatov proved that this goes hand in hand with small penises amongst thier male population.
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