Touch paper lit. Y'all fell for it.
I take it back,
@Mix6APlix someone I don't like very much has adopted a similar avatar to you and I got you mixed up.
@Mix6APlix someone I don't like very much has adopted a similar avatar to you and I got you mixed up.
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Didn't read the thread as I am enjoying myself.
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Yes!!! Black guys... Antifa... KKK....Love US gangs...
#respect
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That has been covered. It was a fuck up by the Air Force. A paperwork issue. He should have been on the "no buy" list.
It's been proven a few times. This isn't one of those times.
She just looks like an outraged parent to me. Completely understandable.
Touch paper.
I'm learning the queen's English from you all the time.
Gun lovers are a notoriously unreasonable bunch, I've been saying this for years.
For a long time, when you asked a gun nut why people need deadly assault rifles that were meant for a battlefield, they'd say "ARGH BECAUSE THEY'RE COOL I LIKE COOL GUNS!"
Then they realized it was bad optics to say that their right to shoot watermelons in their backyard with an assault rifle trumped children's rights to not get shot and killed in a school, so they started bringing up all the conspiracy stuff. "DURR IF YOU TAKE AWAY ASSAULT RIFLES, WHERE DOES IT END? SOON THEY'LL TAKE ALL OUR GUNS, THAT'S WHAT THE NAZIS DID!" There's only one American president that resembles Hitler and he's a Republican, so what are you worried about?
Then they also say "DURR 2ND AMENDMENT WE NEED TO FORM A WELL ARMED MILITIA TO FIGHT BACK AGAINST A TYRANNICAL GOVERNMENT". lol, like an ar15 is going to help you against a fucking drone strike.
Can we start the discussion from this initial premise? Unlike a technology such as the car, which has a purpose other than crashing into things when in control of drunk drivers, you posit that the gun's primary purpose is death.
From this follow two premises:
1) Controlling the distribution of firearms controls the amount of death capable of being distributed in a society.
2) The entity who controls said distribution as well as being in possession of the largest quantity of weapons has a monopoly on life and death.
In the first case, the natural question is whether everyone should have an equal right to distribute death, or indeed if an equilibrium is even possible. Clearly there are price and access barriers to gun ownership that have little to do with regulation, disadvantaging people from engaging in the market for this supposedly "equalizing" force. Those who can afford more/better weapons or who are willing to acquire them at cut rates through illicit channels are thus given greater access to making death. This is anything but equal. Further, in a conflict, the grievances of those in possession of firearms is privileged, not made equal to their counterparts. The gun is a symbol that usually means "I am in control," during confrontation, because of its implicit ability to bring death. That is called biopower (by Foucault at least).
Biopower has historically been vested in the state, making it the only credible arbiter of who may live and die. The social contract we all subscribe to hands that power over to the state as justification for why it can provide for the common defense and adjudicate who must be removed from society for violating the rule of law. To distribute this power too widely in a society is to invite anarchy or at least make arbitrary the rule of law. Monopoly over biopower is what makes the state the state. In a democracy at least, the idea is that there are other technologies at our disposal for bringing about equality besides those that invoke death. We outsource control over biopower to the state in exchange for its protections. It follows that the fairest state is the one which permits the least amount of death. That was the historical project of the state. Today we focus more on the quality of life of those who live within the state, which of course relates to ameliorating the death drives of those who are socially aggrieved or psychologically damaged.
So it's hard to see the equalization power of the gun in the context of the society we've organized. Other than being an often repeated cannard, that statement seems like an artifact of an earlier, less stable time in Western civilization that hasn't existed for more than a century perhaps.
I've read numerous times that the 5.56 is a very welcomed caliber for ranchers in Texas, not only for dealing with wild boars that ruin their crops and endanger their livestock, not to mention possibly (when not if) their family members, but for having equal firepower to illegals who may be crossing their land. I can't begrudge them in either manner.
I also like bacon and pulled pork.
I also like bacon and pulled pork.
He's a typical fox news watching blind and brainwashed person. Any person with an IQ of 100 or more can see the lady was no actor and then the video he gave as his "proof" where Don Lemon is saying he went to Africa wtih some guy on TV, holy fuck that was his proof? there was nothing there. Don Lemon went out of his way to say he knew the guy, and was not ashamed at all, this mental midget op though sees things in a untrue way.
grossDidn't read the thread as I am enjoying myself.
Yes!!! Black guys... Antifa... KKK....Love US gangs...
#respect
To quote a Charlie Daniels song:
Now they're tryin' to take my guns away
And that would be just fine
If you take 'em away from the criminals first
I'll gladly give ya mine
When it comes to guns, it's pretty hard to get the toothpaste back in the tube. There are an estimated 300 million guns in America, 10 million of which are estimated to be AR-15 type weapons.
When it comes to gun ownership, I believe it's better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it. Create a society where I don't feel like I need a weapon to keep me and mine safe from all the crazies and crooks out there, I'm all for it. But that's not today's America.
@sparkuri regarding your most recent post to me, zero, literally zero of what you said justifies someone being able to legally buy a gun every day of the year if they want. There is no justification for stock piling hundreds of pistols and shotguns.
If you buy say 4 guns in a year and you go to buy a 5th, there needs to be some compelling evidence you have to give to be able to buy that 5th gun. You have your right to bear arms, you have your right to defend your property, you have yoru right to go hunt, none of that is taken away by putting a cap on how many guns a year you can buy.
The gun owners need to stop being so selfish and be a part of the solution.
If you listen to what I been saying this entire time, I agree with you on that. Do not mix up your right to bear with what I am saying.
Pandoras box is open. You can't unfix it. Having law abiding citizens turn in their arms only makes them more susceptible to those who haven't. To get all guns off the streets would take generations, and I'll be dead by then, so I don't care. I'm already teaching my nieces to shoot with nerf guns. Hopefully it carries over.
Lol so no proof this lady was an actor then.
You said you want to ban semi-automatic rifles. I have 3 of them. I also have a semi-automatic shotgun. I didn't buy any of them by the way - they were passed down from family members.
My dad showed me how to shoot with a .22 rifle when I was 10.
Interesting. What if in Vegas the shooter was trained with a bolt action rifles? How much of a difference when you're firing into a large condensed crowd? I get that it would be less, but the tactics used still equate to a lot of people shot. But if he had a second to aim with a zeroed in scope, might that be a worse scenario the spray and pray?
@SensoriaUtopia To answer the question I'm sure you are typing right now
- No, I don't NEED all those guns. They are fun to shoot, but they spend most of their lives in a safe. I probably spend more time cleaning them than I do shooting them.
So your post, contradicts what
@sparkuri says about giving away gun. I said that a person should have a limit on gun they buy a year. Maybe 3 or 5 or 10, whatever but a limit. Because if someone goes 5 days out of every 7 day week and buy a simple pistol, they would have 250 plus pistols i na year and ould give them away in nefarious way. He said you can't give guns away, yet here you are admitting that you given guns by family members.His statement is odd, because once something is sold to someone you can't control what they do with it. You would hate to see the semi auto ban because you enjoy the gun, you are responsibile and it's fun when you to the range. But, is that fun you have at the range worth it when others who are not as good a person or responsible as you get their hands on that.
Also, even though I want a ban on automastic assault weapons, I am much more concerned with better protocols, mental health review, more police on school campus, so the ban is below those things on my priority list.
We were up in Minoqua WS when I was a kid, about 10, and my dad let me shoot his .45. Knocked me right on my ass and onto one of his discarded yet still burning cigarette butts. Good times.
Haha. I was probably a bit too small at 10 to shoot a .45
That's a lot of gun for a kid.
The .22 wasn't that big of a deal. Just a louder bb gun.
If you really want to get enraged, check out your local police auctions. Weapons confiscated in the line of duty aren't destroyed - they are often sold back to the public at auction.So your post, contradicts what
His statement is odd, because once something is sold to someone you can't control what they do with it. You would hate to see the semi auto ban because you enjoy the gun, you are responsibile and it's fun when you to the range. But, is that fun you have at the range worth it when others who are not as good a person or responsible as you get their hands on that.
Also, even though I want a ban on automastic assault weapons, I am much more concerned with better protocols, mental health review, more police on school campus, so the ban is below those things on my priority list.
If the state is truly interested in getting guns off the street - they could start by scrapping those weapons.
Kentucky State Police: Confiscated Weapons Sale