General Any 5th gen 4Runner owners?

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Fan_of_Fanboys

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Looking at 2023, SR5 premium, Toyota gold certified pre-owned. Coming from a 2015 Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland it's a massive step back in technology. But my transmission is starting to slip and it's not worth fixing on this vehicle. Plus, I shouldn't have this problem on the 4Runner.
 

mysticmac

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I don't have a 4Runner. I have a 4th gen Tacoma. Used prices are high because they are low cost to own vehicles. It was cheaper and easier for me to buy new than it was to get the same type of model than a used one.

The only things I've needed to do are standard maintenance, a recall (which cost nothing), and someone drilled a hole through my gas tank. Nothing has "gone wrong" with anything on it. I've had it for six years, so a bit of time though not a long time.
 

vad

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Prices are a bit crazy but I guess worth it based on reliability
They are reliable but it's not by the leaps and bounds they have been at points in the past. Some of their new tech is also not being well received.

My buddy has one. It's nice. In no world would I pay what they ask.
 

MountainMedic

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Milage has never really been good enough for me to justify the price leap.
They are reliable. They're also a pain in the ass to work on, they make it difficult on purpose, they want you to bring it in. No big deal if you're cool with that.

You towing?
 

Rambo John J

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I would like an Off-Road with the KDSS
Low Miles of Course

Mileage is 17mpg or so, engine and transmission are super tested and durable
Easily a 15 year vehicle with minimal maintenance

Price is very high for those exact reasons
 

Fan_of_Fanboys

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They are reliable but it's not by the leaps and bounds they have been at points in the past. Some of their new tech is also not being well received.

My buddy has one. It's nice. In no world would I pay what they ask.
I'm not looking at the new gen with the twin turbos. I'm only looking at gen 5
 

vad

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God I regret getting rid of my FJ
They now have some land cruiser type thing. I think they are trying to replace it with that. Not sure. Looks cool but again Toyota is insane to charge these prices. They simply do not have the reliability edge they used to. Their available options are about 20 years behind. It's weird. They thrive off of a reputation decades old that is absolutely no longer true.
 

kvr28

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4 runners used to be more expensive then tacomas and was like 8 grand more than the FJ when we bought it.
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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Jul 22, 2015
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Looking at 2023, SR5 premium, Toyota gold certified pre-owned. Coming from a 2015 Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland it's a massive step back in technology. But my transmission is starting to slip and it's not worth fixing on this vehicle. Plus, I shouldn't have this problem on the 4Runner.
Great trucks. The 4 liter engine is fucking tremendous.

Don't try to do the trans fluid yourself though.
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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Jul 22, 2015
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I don't have a 4Runner. I have a 4th gen Tacoma. Used prices are high because they are low cost to own vehicles. It was cheaper and easier for me to buy new than it was to get the same type of model than a used one.

The only things I've needed to do are standard maintenance, a recall (which cost nothing), and someone drilled a hole through my gas tank. Nothing has "gone wrong" with anything on it. I've had it for six years, so a bit of time though not a long time.
I think you mean 3rd gen. 4th has only been put for two years. Respectfully.
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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why exactly?
I like the 4 liter and the simple tranny of 3rd gen
Under normal driving conditions, it never needs to be replaced. A few years ago Toyota actually sent out a technical service bulletin telling people to stop fucking replacing it.

In a case where it does need to be replaced, the transmission needs to be drained, refilled, then put into the specific temperature range of the vehicle you're changing it on and you have to pull the drain plug. If trans fluid streams out, it's over filled. If nothing comes out it's underfilled. If the temp range is correct and it's a steady drop from the drain plug, the level is correct. Overfilling by even a little often causes shifting issues. And underfilling can grenade the unit. The reason for the temperature range is that the fluid expands quite a bit when hot and there's no dipstick. Your Tundra has the same procedure.

If you really feel the need to change the trans fluid, it's not worth saving the hour and a half labor the dealer is going to charge you every 7 years or so. Talking to someone at Aisin (the company that builds/rebuilds the Toyota units) they say 95% of the "failed" transmissions they get in for rebuild were just overfilled.

I would suggest people ignore the once a year oil change intervals and change it twice. There hasn't been long-term reliability issues since the change, but an extra oil change a year is cheap insurance and won't exactly break the bank.
 
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Fan_of_Fanboys

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Great trucks. The 4 liter engine is fucking tremendous.

Don't try to do the trans fluid yourself though.
On the 4runner? I've watched a lot of YouTube videos, a drain/fill doesn't seem complicated. Not planning to drop the pan and change the filter, just drain/fill every 60k